If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new

[WinterHold]

God never lost control; the Quran mentions it clear that this life is nothing but a test.
Even demons were his creation; after all. Satan, too.

No, they were not. Lucifer chose to oppose God, he wasn't created for to be Satan and the demons, I'm supposing you are referring to the fallen angels they made their choice, too.

GC

That would mean that God doesn't know everything; which means he lied over and over when he revealed the Bible.

I pretty much believe that to make any sense out of the "I know everything" claim; I am forced to meet a conclusion that he created everything, knowing exactly what the creation's destiny would be. The creation chose what to do, and God knows it even before he makes the creation.

Even humans are capable somehow to know what their creations would do: any engineer or a simple coffee make can fill us in about "the expected destiny" of their creation.

But in God's case; that destiny is already at place.

We live in a universe where history is alive and well. Far stars for example are mere histories. Their state in the past just reached us represented in light.
Destiny, fate are just similar.

God knows that Satan would choose to be a demon. That's what Satan chose. But God is all knowing after all.

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Because he's such a petty, jealous, insecure prick that he wants worship and adoration. Anyone, god or not, with that mentality deserves none of what they seek.

 No, because He's a loving god who desires a relationship with us. God insecure that's a laugh, He was living an eternally just fine without us, He created us so we could enjoy Him and those wonderful things He would provide, it's to bad you haven't experienced such a relationship with Him.

GC

The bald sentence is like a description of an alien organism that is investigating life on earth.
God is a maker. He creates. That's what he does.

If he loves people so much; why is he torturing them in hell; or on earth?
God is not even close to an emotion pipe that spurts love and hate like an alien. "Emotions" are created an embedded in us. It's a human thing.

God has certain features that can be understood through what he revealed; prophets spent years and even died trying to explain what God is to humanity.

[Astonished]

No, they were not. Lucifer chose to oppose God, he wasn't created for to be Satan and the demons, I'm supposing you are referring to the fallen angels they made their choice, too.

GC

That would mean that God doesn't know everything; which means he lied over and over when he revealed the Bible.

I pretty much believe that to make any sense out of the "I know everything" claim; I am forced to meet a conclusion that he created everything, knowing exactly what the creation's destiny would be. The creation chose what to do, and God knows it even before he makes the creation.

Even humans are capable somehow to know what their creations would do: any engineer or a simple coffee make can fill us in about "the expected destiny" of their creation.

But in God's case; that destiny is already at place.

We live in a universe where history is alive and well. Far stars for example are mere histories. Their state in the past just reached us represented in light.
Destiny, fate are just similar.

God knows that Satan would choose to be a demon. That's what Satan chose. But God is all knowing after all.

---

 No, because He's a loving god who desires a relationship with us. God insecure that's a laugh, He was living an eternally just fine without us, He created us so we could enjoy Him and those wonderful things He would provide, it's to bad you haven't experienced such a relationship with Him.

GC

The bald sentence is like a description of an alien organism that is investigating life on earth.
God is a maker. He creates. That's what he does.

If he loves people so much; why is he torturing them in hell; or on earth?
God is not even close to an emotion pipe that spurts love and hate like an alien. "Emotions" are created an embedded in us. It's a human thing.

God has certain features that can be understood through what he revealed; prophets spent years and even died trying to explain what God is to humanity.

And just as soon as you can prove these prophets weren't just psychotic and/or lying, that would be a good opportunity to start convincing people. But at the moment all it does it make it sound like I could take serious advantage of you in a con job if I was a less scrupulous person. I seriously don't get how you can defend the idea that a god cannot, or will not, speak directly and clearly to their creation as a whole without relying on fallible proxies and never bothering to do anything at all to resolve any of the conflicts or contradictions within the messages being delivered.

[Godscreated]

You're going the colossal asshole route of telling me it's my fault I didn't have a relationship with your imaginary friend? Fuck off with that shit, you fucking infant. If you hear nothing but silence for 8 straight years when you're most impressionable, at some point you have to wonder how invested this god is in having a relationship with us, and even a child can see through that bullshit when it's completely obvious that they're being fed a lie, no different than Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny. All that tells me is you're psychotic, potentially dangerously so, because you're describing symptoms of numerous disorders you seem to be experiencing. The thing is, when I tell you how to fix that problem, my method will actually produce results. And I'm not going to blame you for why you're in that condition unless you want to act the damn fool even more.

It's you who's being profane and insolent and showing your lack of intelligence in the process. If you didn't hear from God for eight years it couldn't have anything to do with you could it. Why no, you are always right and everyone else is wrong, typical when you fail.

He proudly proclaims to be jealous in the worst way, and forbids the worship of other gods; how much more fucking insecure can you get? It's almost like he's powerless to do away with these other gods, like he's a namby-pamby bitch who can't expand his influence beyond one measly tribe (big surprise that that's where the mythology emerged) or spread the word around the world himself. So insecure he couldn't just let us have our tower and unite and be good and cooperative to each other.

Look where we are at the present time, living in a world on the brink of several disasters, do you call the human race secure in the light of what we have made of this world. God has never been insecure and any thought like that is foolish. God had lived eternal before He created us and was doing quite well.

So insecure he had to prove a point to one of his other failed creations so he had to butt-fuck Job half to death without a care for Job's feelings on the matter. So insecure he constantly has to test people's faith, like Abraham with Isaac. So insecure he couldn't just leave it at whatever number of plagues he already unleashed on Egypt and had to fuck with Pharaoh's free will so he could do even more. I mean, at some point you have to admit that psychology makes Yahweh a test case for every fucking disorder out there and probably some we don't actually see in normal humans.

Satan challenged God, of coarse you haven't realized that as of yet. God was showing Satan and all creation that He knew Job wouldn't falter, how else would He have shown this other than to let the situation that Satan wanted play out? God test people so that we can grow in a relationship with Him, god was showing Abraham how strong He really was, you're complaining about something that Abraham did not complain about, that's just silly of you. Those plagues were given as a warning and Pharaoh ignored them, Pharaoh could have released the Israelis before all those plagues were unleashed on Egypt. You need to go back and read the account and see when Pharaoh's heart was hardened. Our free will does not extend into disrupting God's absolute will and Pharaoh was trying to do just that, God taught him who the real God is. pharaoh is responsible for what happened to Egypt.

'So we could enjoy him and all the wonders of life'. Yeah, like cancer, birth defects, mental disorders, all things he could have flipped a switch and done without. One of the main things I had a problem with when I was being taught this stuff was the lack of equality. How can god love everyone equally if we are all clearly not being treated equally?

God does love everyone equally. Sin not God is responsible for the bad things in this world, that's exactly why we need a savior, when we accept this gift from God we will be relieved of all these burdens in the next life, if not the burdens carry on in a different form. Many of the mental an physical disorders man suffers from come from the chemicals we have developed, wouldn't that be our fault? Birth defects and babies born with addictions to drugs are the fault of the mother, a lack of love for the one she is carrying. In many cases the baby comes outside of marriage, if the ones involved in making this baby had obeyed God this might not happen. Using our free will in the wrong can and does bring disaster into not only our lives but the innocent as well. God flipping the switch as you say and taking away all the things that would end our lives is against what God promised would happen if Adam and Eve disobeyed God, God is good to His word.

That is simply an irreconcilable contradiction. If someone is born with a brain incapable of experience life in any meaningful way, and they exist according to his plan, what the fuck was the point of this 'gift'? And I don't know if it was you who brought it up but if you want to claim we weren't created to be robots and needed strife to get the full experience of life, fuck the fuck off with your delusional asshattery.

That situation is for those who experience it and whether they live in a relationship with God, not you. God has promised us nothing outside of what His omniscience determines, so we are stuck with the results of the fall, they are not pleasant and were never meant to be, God did promise that He would carry those through troubled times if they believe and trust in Him. My wife and I take care of a 38 year old woman who has the mental capacity of a four year old and don't think for one minute that I haven't wondered why her. I can tell you this she is happy with who she is and knows who God is, she never complains about her situation even though she see adults around her living and doing life in a very different way than she can. She use to complain when the ungodly controlled her life and made her miserable by the way they treated her physically and mentally. Today she lives in a Godly home and is happier than she has ever been, God does love us all equally.
I've mentioned God did not create us to be robots and He didn't create us to have strife in our lives, that came from disobedience and continues today because of the same reason, in reality that reason is self pride, it began with Lucifer spread to 1/3rd of the angels through Satan's deceit and then on to Adam and Eve through that same deceit and continues to this very moment. So strife is a part of this life because of disobedience and we must deal with it, the difference between you and me is I've decided that having God to help me through life's strife is a better way to go.

Adam and Eve were living in a paradise, so why put them there if we weren't just supposed to experience nothing but bliss? And the fact that we had to be 'punished' and denied this Eden for being set up in the first place by a combination of god's ineptitude and intentional vindictiveness should slap our consciousnesses so hard it's literally impossible for you not to see that and yet somehow you defy that. You literally have no leg to stand on anywhere.

 

We were to experience a life in Eden and God did not have anything to do with setting up the first couple. It started in heave by a jealous angel who was so powerful he thought he could take his creators thrown, this should show all of us what uncontrolled selfishness can do to our minds. This angel was the smartest and most powerful being ever created and he allowed his selfishness to destroy him. He walked in the Garden of Eden with God before his fall, he was a God's side all the time before his fall yet he allowed selfishness to creep in and take over, after that it was no problem for him to deceive many angels and the first couple. Tell me how God could have been vindictive before the disobedience of Adam and Eve? I have the truth to stand on and that's all I really need, a truth I understand. The ones who side against God live with the deceit of Satan and can't find the real truth.

Not that I care much, but does anything in any old text tell the story from the fallen angels' perspective? Like maybe there was a reason they rebelled against a god they saw as, perhaps, dictatorial and megalomaniacal and unworthy of being beholden to? Funny how if not, that's exactly what you'd expect a tyrant to do, silence the opposition's voice. And just like you'd expect a liar to say "I'm not a liar". Only the claim goes beyond that, to 'god is incapable of lying'. Hilariously transparent.

The Bible is not about angels and wasn't given to them, it's for us so we can realize how to live in harmony with God our creator and savior. It's about how man has failed at life and can be redeemed back to the care of God. The OT is showing how we fail to live up to God's standard, the NT isn't about how we have lived up to His standard it is given for us to see the way to be redeemed from those failures and live a closer life to God. I've already explained to you what happened in heaven and see no need to repeat myself (go back and read above if you missed it). God hasn't silenced the opposition, that is exactly what part of the story of Job is about, Satan was allowed to tempt Jesus when He was at His physical and mentally weakest point. I have said this before and will again, God can not lie, it is not in His natural not who He is, lying for God is an impossibility as we humans understand it. God doesn't even consider lying and why should He, He is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So even if God could lie He doesn't have to the power is His to accomplish all things without lying. Our conversations could be much better if you would eliminate the foul language and some of that superior than thou stuff. I'm not superior to you and like wise for you I'm superior to no one, my advantage to the truth is my acceptance of Christ as my savior, nothing I've done other than to accept a gift.

GC

[Astonished]

You're going the colossal asshole route of telling me it's my fault I didn't have a relationship with your imaginary friend? Fuck off with that shit, you fucking infant. If you hear nothing but silence for 8 straight years when you're most impressionable, at some point you have to wonder how invested this god is in having a relationship with us, and even a child can see through that bullshit when it's completely obvious that they're being fed a lie, no different than Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny. All that tells me is you're psychotic, potentially dangerously so, because you're describing symptoms of numerous disorders you seem to be experiencing. The thing is, when I tell you how to fix that problem, my method will actually produce results. And I'm not going to blame you for why you're in that condition unless you want to act the damn fool even more.

It's you who's being profane and insolent and showing your lack of intelligence in the process. If you didn't hear from God for eight years it couldn't have anything to do with you could it. Why no, you are always right and everyone else is wrong, typical when you fail.

He proudly proclaims to be jealous in the worst way, and forbids the worship of other gods; how much more fucking insecure can you get? It's almost like he's powerless to do away with these other gods, like he's a namby-pamby bitch who can't expand his influence beyond one measly tribe (big surprise that that's where the mythology emerged) or spread the word around the world himself. So insecure he couldn't just let us have our tower and unite and be good and cooperative to each other.

Look where we are at the present time, living in a world on the brink of several disasters, do you call the human race secure in the light of what we have made of this world. God has never been insecure and any thought like that is foolish. God had lived eternal before He created us and was doing quite well.

So insecure he had to prove a point to one of his other failed creations so he had to butt-fuck Job half to death without a care for Job's feelings on the matter. So insecure he constantly has to test people's faith, like Abraham with Isaac. So insecure he couldn't just leave it at whatever number of plagues he already unleashed on Egypt and had to fuck with Pharaoh's free will so he could do even more. I mean, at some point you have to admit that psychology makes Yahweh a test case for every fucking disorder out there and probably some we don't actually see in normal humans.

Satan challenged God, of coarse you haven't realized that as of yet. God was showing Satan and all creation that He knew Job wouldn't falter, how else would He have shown this other than to let the situation that Satan wanted play out? God test people so that we can grow in a relationship with Him, god was showing Abraham how strong He really was, you're complaining about something that Abraham did not complain about, that's just silly of you. Those plagues were given as a warning and Pharaoh ignored them, Pharaoh could have released the Israelis before all those plagues were unleashed on Egypt. You need to go back and read the account and see when Pharaoh's heart was hardened. Our free will does not extend into disrupting God's absolute will and Pharaoh was trying to do just that, God taught him who the real God is. pharaoh is responsible for what happened to Egypt.

'So we could enjoy him and all the wonders of life'. Yeah, like cancer, birth defects, mental disorders, all things he could have flipped a switch and done without. One of the main things I had a problem with when I was being taught this stuff was the lack of equality. How can god love everyone equally if we are all clearly not being treated equally?

God does love everyone equally. Sin not God is responsible for the bad things in this world, that's exactly why we need a savior, when we accept this gift from God we will be relieved of all these burdens in the next life, if not the burdens carry on in a different form. Many of the mental an physical disorders man suffers from come from the chemicals we have developed, wouldn't that be our fault? Birth defects and babies born with addictions to drugs are the fault of the mother, a lack of love for the one she is carrying. In many cases the baby comes outside of marriage, if the ones involved in making this baby had obeyed God this might not happen. Using our free will in the wrong can and does bring disaster into not only our lives but the innocent as well. God flipping the switch as you say and taking away all the things that would end our lives is against what God promised would happen if Adam and Eve disobeyed God, God is good to His word.

That is simply an irreconcilable contradiction. If someone is born with a brain incapable of experience life in any meaningful way, and they exist according to his plan, what the fuck was the point of this 'gift'? And I don't know if it was you who brought it up but if you want to claim we weren't created to be robots and needed strife to get the full experience of life, fuck the fuck off with your delusional asshattery.

That situation is for those who experience it and whether they live in a relationship with God, not you. God has promised us nothing outside of what His omniscience determines, so we are stuck with the results of the fall, they are not pleasant and were never meant to be, God did promise that He would carry those through troubled times if they believe and trust in Him. My wife and I take care of a 38 year old woman who has the mental capacity of a four year old and don't think for one minute that I haven't wondered why her. I can tell you this she is happy with who she is and knows who God is, she never complains about her situation even though she see adults around her living and doing life in a very different way than she can. She use to complain when the ungodly controlled her life and made her miserable by the way they treated her physically and mentally. Today she lives in a Godly home and is happier than she has ever been, God does love us all equally.
I've mentioned God did not create us to be robots and He didn't create us to have strife in our lives, that came from disobedience and continues today because of the same reason, in reality that reason is self pride, it began with Lucifer spread to 1/3rd of the angels through Satan's deceit and then on to Adam and Eve through that same deceit and continues to this very moment. So strife is a part of this life because of disobedience and we must deal with it, the difference between you and me is I've decided that having God to help me through life's strife is a better way to go.

Adam and Eve were living in a paradise, so why put them there if we weren't just supposed to experience nothing but bliss? And the fact that we had to be 'punished' and denied this Eden for being set up in the first place by a combination of god's ineptitude and intentional vindictiveness should slap our consciousnesses so hard it's literally impossible for you not to see that and yet somehow you defy that. You literally have no leg to stand on anywhere.

 

We were to experience a life in Eden and God did not have anything to do with setting up the first couple. It started in heave by a jealous angel who was so powerful he thought he could take his creators thrown, this should show all of us what uncontrolled selfishness can do to our minds. This angel was the smartest and most powerful being ever created and he allowed his selfishness to destroy him. He walked in the Garden of Eden with God before his fall, he was a God's side all the time before his fall yet he allowed selfishness to creep in and take over, after that it was no problem for him to deceive many angels and the first couple. Tell me how God could have been vindictive before the disobedience of Adam and Eve? I have the truth to stand on and that's all I really need, a truth I understand. The ones who side against God live with the deceit of Satan and can't find the real truth.

Not that I care much, but does anything in any old text tell the story from the fallen angels' perspective? Like maybe there was a reason they rebelled against a god they saw as, perhaps, dictatorial and megalomaniacal and unworthy of being beholden to? Funny how if not, that's exactly what you'd expect a tyrant to do, silence the opposition's voice. And just like you'd expect a liar to say "I'm not a liar". Only the claim goes beyond that, to 'god is incapable of lying'. Hilariously transparent.

The Bible is not about angels and wasn't given to them, it's for us so we can realize how to live in harmony with God our creator and savior. It's about how man has failed at life and can be redeemed back to the care of God. The OT is showing how we fail to live up to God's standard, the NT isn't about how we have lived up to His standard it is given for us to see the way to be redeemed from those failures and live a closer life to God. I've already explained to you what happened in heaven and see no need to repeat myself (go back and read above if you missed it). God hasn't silenced the opposition, that is exactly what part of the story of Job is about, Satan was allowed to tempt Jesus when He was at His physical and mentally weakest point. I have said this before and will again, God can not lie, it is not in His natural not who He is, lying for God is an impossibility as we humans understand it. God doesn't even consider lying and why should He, He is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So even if God could lie He doesn't have to the power is His to accomplish all things without lying. Our conversations could be much better if you would eliminate the foul language and some of that superior than thou stuff. I'm not superior to you and like wise for you I'm superior to no one, my advantage to the truth is my acceptance of Christ as my savior, nothing I've done other than to accept a gift.

GC

If there was any justice in the fucking world, you would be in a straightjacket and heavily medicated until you realized just how fucked you are in the head. It's not even worth telling you how big a lying sack of shit you are.

The fact that I would have to lose about 100 IQ points or suffer some massive brain trauma to be capable of believing in the things you do should really fucking tell you something. No one has any justification to say that religion is harmless if this is what it turned you into. Whoever indoctrinated you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and you as well if you forced this on your own kids.

[Huggy Bear]

You understand that if you want to be a Navy seal that you must pass their trials, correct? If you want to be a son of God you have to be tried in order to be found worthy of that title.

Got it?

Well fuck me! Here's me thinking all that is necessary for salvation is to telepathically tell him I accept him as my lord and master, seat in the upper circle guaranteed. Now I'm told I have to run a gauntlet of tests? I think It's safe to assume intelligence won't be one of them. A large boil on the scrotal sack? The kitchen infested with locusts?

Hebrews 12
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

[Astonished]

Well fuck me! Here's me thinking all that is necessary for salvation is to telepathically tell him I accept him as my lord and master, seat in the upper circle guaranteed. Now I'm told I have to run a gauntlet of tests? I think It's safe to assume intelligence won't be one of them. A large boil on the scrotal sack? The kitchen infested with locusts?

Hebrews 12
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

And here's where informed consent once again fails to enter the equation, making god something akin to a rapist (instead of only a rapist by proxy, ordering armies to slaughter the opposing tribes' males and soiled women and take the virgins for their rape slaves), only on the greatest, most amplified scale of fuckery conceivable. No one asks to be born and be thrust into this position with both utter uncertainty as to what to believe given all the equally fatuous faiths (let's not forget the circumstances of your birth determines with almost 100% certainty what brand of dogshit you believe in) and a terribly limited amount of time to make a decision, with threats of disbelief being met with the threat of not being able to be forgiven, and our all too human, limited intellect to actually determine what really is ultimately true.

[Godscreated]

No, they were not. Lucifer chose to oppose God, he wasn't created for to be Satan and the demons, I'm supposing you are referring to the fallen angels they made their choice, too.

GC

That would mean that God doesn't know everything; which means he lied over and over when he revealed the Bible.

I pretty much believe that to make any sense out of the "I know everything" claim; I am forced to meet a conclusion that he created everything, knowing exactly what the creation's destiny would be. The creation chose what to do, and God knows it even before he makes the creation.

Even humans are capable somehow to know what their creations would do: any engineer or a simple coffee make can fill us in about "the expected destiny" of their creation.

But in God's case; that destiny is already at place.

We live in a universe where history is alive and well. Far stars for example are mere histories. Their state in the past just reached us represented in light.
Destiny, fate are just similar.

God knows that Satan would choose to be a demon. That's what Satan chose. But God is all knowing after all.

Let me ask you a question and then we can go from your answer, what is the meaning of God being omnipresent?

---

 No, because He's a loving god who desires a relationship with us. God insecure that's a laugh, He was living an eternally just fine without us, He created us so we could enjoy Him and those wonderful things He would provide, it's to bad you haven't experienced such a relationship with Him.

GC

The bald sentence is like a description of an alien organism that is investigating life on earth.
God is a maker. He creates. That's what he does.

So that's all God is a maker and creator, then why did you call Him a tester and why test us if He is no more than a maker/creator?

If he loves people so much; why is he torturing them in hell; or on earth?
God is not even close to an emotion pipe that spurts love and hate like an alien. "Emotions" are created an embedded in us. It's a human thing.

God's not torturing anyone, those who are in hell have chosen to be separated from God, that wasn't His desire. He doesn't have to torment us on earth we do a good job of that ourselves. Sin is the reason for our difficulties here on earth. You are the one who said God test people and I have taken it to mean that He puts difficulties in our lives am I right in this assumption. If so then you are the one who should be answering your own questions. The answer to the underlined above is this, we were created in the image of God and the Bible shows us of God's emotions.

GC[/quote]

[Astonished]

That would mean that God doesn't know everything; which means he lied over and over when he revealed the Bible.

I pretty much believe that to make any sense out of the "I know everything" claim; I am forced to meet a conclusion that he created everything, knowing exactly what the creation's destiny would be. The creation chose what to do, and God knows it even before he makes the creation.

Even humans are capable somehow to know what their creations would do: any engineer or a simple coffee make can fill us in about "the expected destiny" of their creation.

But in God's case; that destiny is already at place.

We live in a universe where history is alive and well. Far stars for example are mere histories. Their state in the past just reached us represented in light.
Destiny, fate are just similar.

God knows that Satan would choose to be a demon. That's what Satan chose. But God is all knowing after all.

Let me ask you a question and then we can go from your answer, what is the meaning of God being omnipresent?

---

 No, because He's a loving god who desires a relationship with us. God insecure that's a laugh, He was living an eternally just fine without us, He created us so we could enjoy Him and those wonderful things He would provide, it's to bad you haven't experienced such a relationship with Him.

GC

The bald sentence is like a description of an alien organism that is investigating life on earth.
God is a maker. He creates. That's what he does.

So that's all God is a maker and creator, then why did you call Him a tester and why test us if He is no more than a maker/creator?

If he loves people so much; why is he torturing them in hell; or on earth?
God is not even close to an emotion pipe that spurts love and hate like an alien. "Emotions" are created an embedded in us. It's a human thing.

God's not torturing anyone, those who are in hell have chosen to be separated from God, that wasn't His desire. He doesn't have to torment us on earth we do a good job of that ourselves. Sin is the reason for our difficulties here on earth. You are the one who said God test people and I have taken it to mean that He puts difficulties in our lives am I right in this assumption. If so then you are the one who should be answering your own questions. The answer to the underlined above is this, we were created in the image of God and the Bible shows us of God's emotions.

GC

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Why the goddamn mother FUCK is god so eager to forget that he created us with this supposed 'sin' and yet still blames us exclusively for it? What a fucktarded omniscient prick. That's fundamentally incompatible with omnibenevolent or perfectly merciful because at a minimum he's a liar and hypocrite, and at worst he's the worst sort of sadist. And how convenient you forget torment that isn't man-made (fuck you if you try to pull that 'it's because of sin' shit again, dipfuck) like diseases and natural disasters for one thing. I almost wish he was real so you would have the rudest awakening and find out you're in a no-win situation as much as anyone because this god isn't interested in anyone but himself.

[Godscreated]

 

If there was any justice in the fucking world, you would be in a straightjacket and heavily medicated until you realized just how fucked you are in the head. It's not even worth telling you how big a lying sack of shit you are.

The fact that I would have to lose about 100 IQ points or suffer some massive brain trauma to be capable of believing in the things you do should really fucking tell you something. No one has any justification to say that religion is harmless if this is what it turned you into. Whoever indoctrinated you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and you as well if you forced this on your own kids.

I wrote you off when I was here last and am again. You are a arrogant little child who has little to no moral value for others. I hope you can find God's truth some day, for your sake.

GC

[Astonished]

If there was any justice in the fucking world, you would be in a straightjacket and heavily medicated until you realized just how fucked you are in the head. It's not even worth telling you how big a lying sack of shit you are.

The fact that I would have to lose about 100 IQ points or suffer some massive brain trauma to be capable of believing in the things you do should really fucking tell you something. No one has any justification to say that religion is harmless if this is what it turned you into. Whoever indoctrinated you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and you as well if you forced this on your own kids.

I wrote you off when I was here last and am again. You are a arrogant little child who has little to no moral value for others. I hope you can find God's truth some day, for your sake.

GC

You're the piece of shit telling people they deserve to suffer anything and everything that ever happens to them and then some, if that wasn't just a product of your absolute insanity, you'd be in prison for making these threats and horrifying children with them. I don't even think electroshock therapy could fix this. But you'd deserve that for all the horrible shit you're putting out into the world, which is fucking criminal how inhuman you are to people you don't even fucking know. What a piece of human garbage you are for spouting this unwarranted hate speech, you and everyone who's been brainwashed to think like you don't deserve to share space on this planet - you say look around at how horrible things are, you fucking assholes are the ones responsible, dipshit. You don't even seem to want it, since this life is meaningless, right? Why don't you all just spare us the rest of your bullshit and go meet your maker and leave the planet to us and make both parties happy?

And god's truth, if it's what you believe, fucking hell, shithead, is going to be worse than your imagination is capable of comprehending for you. Just because you fail to understand your own book (something a child can figure out not to do) doesn't mean you get to dictate the terms of reality if it doesn't meet your expectations.