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Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
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Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
I just saw this on pharyngula, very interesting. Michael Behe sounds like an absolute fucking cunt.

Quote:The title really says it all. The idea of rejecting or even questioning Catholicism was unheard of in my family. Naturally, there was a LOT of social backlash, which I'll address based on any questions from my fellow Redditors.
One request I'd like to make is to please not let this turn into a "fuck yeah atheism" circlejerk. I'd really enjoy explaining to atheists and theists alike (especially Christians, that being the religion I rejected) why I reached the conclusion that religion was not credible after seventeen years of rather aggressive indoctrination.
EDIT: Holy crap, front page! Thanks so much guys! I originally wrote this and responded to the first few comments on my phone's on-screen keyboard at work, so I was a little slow with it. However, I'm back at home now on my laptop (I work third shift) and I'll spend the next few hours responding to all your questions, after which I gotta get some sleep before I go into work at 10pm tonight. I hope my answers help shed some light on whatever you may be curious about.
EDIT: Well, I've been having a great time talking with all of you, and I hope you're all getting something out of this as well. Unfortunately, as I work the night shift, right about now is when I need to get some sleep. Once I wake up and get to work, I'll jump back on. (My job isn't that busy.) Until then, feel free to keep discussing!

Behe Jr Wrote:
Questioner Wrote:1.How did you come to the realization that your religion was not credible?

2. How is your relationship with your family? From what I remember from his talk, you have many siblings.

3. What kind of backlash did you experience?

At seventeen, I was something of a little thinker, and I liked questioning everything and looking at issues from different sides. I had never applied that to religion, so I eventually decided to dive right in and listen to the opposing side. I had the utmost confidence in my faith, and I was a very devout Catholic. The first book I read against religion was Dawkins' "The God Delusion". While I didn't (and still don't) agree with everything he said, I tried to empty my mind of assumptions and reformed opinions as much as possible. I read through the whole book in two days, and the result was quite shocking to me. It was like taking off rose-colored glasses for the first time. I realized how questionable religion might sound to some who had not grown up around it. And that was the foundation of my change- it took quite a while to accept, I'd say about six months, but the more I read, the more I realized that religion's claims were simply unfounded.
Bad. And I do confidently blame religion for this. I certainly don't think it always turns out this way, but my stubbornness in maintaining and voicing my beliefs conflicted with my parents' policy of keeping the rest of my family shielded from alternate viewpoints. "Indoctrination", unfortunately, is really the word that describes it best, and I do believe that my younger brothers (the members of my family I am closest to) are truly being hurt by this. So my parents and I are in perpetual disagreement. I have, for the most part, stopped talking to my parents, and I am not allowed to speak to my little brothers at all. I don't want to complain, but this has been very painful for both them and I. Hoping to move out soon.
The vast majority of families that I know are devout Christians, often Catholic. I have been cut off from several of my friends, I have been rather demonized by parents of my friends, and in the case of one family, my friend's father threatened her that she would not have a normal life unless she severed contact with me completely. I am either spoken to with curtness and disdain or am not spoken to at all by many families I know.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/dn...confidence
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
Either Micheal or his son was not intelligently designed.
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
How embarassing for Behe Sr. Can't even convince his son. At least this proves one thing: stupidity isn't necessarily inherited. There's still some hope for William Lane Craig Jr.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken

'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.

'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain

'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
The worst part is how he's treading him for his atheism, refusing to let him speak to his brothers, moving him into the basement, not speaking to him etc.

What a prick.
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
Typical of religious fucktards, though.

I'm always amused when an atheist shows up here and asks "how can I tell my family/friends without them getting pissed at me?"

You can't.
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
Not if they're already total assholes.

If your family are just going to get upset then who gives a flying fuck, they'll get over it.
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
To thine own self be true, everyone else can learn to fucking deal with it.

I'm impressed by this young man, despite all the crap shoved down his throat he had the intelligence to look at the issues objectively and then draw his own conclusions and act on them.

Even though he knew what the consequences would be.
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
Quote:they'll get over it.


Not always.
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
Dear Michael Behe,

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Good on Behe Jr. though.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Michael "Intelligent Design" Behe's son is an Atheist
Atheism, the easy way out.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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