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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 4:00 pm
(September 23, 2022 at 3:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (September 23, 2022 at 2:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Try to understand this: Trump’s possession of those documents is illegal whether or not they were declassified. What Manning did was illegal because those documents were classified. Stop bringing up who was able to declassify and who wasn’t. It’s immaterial as regards Trump.
Manning stole and arranged to have classified material published to expose illegal actions of your government. Illegal? Absolutely, and you’re correct to say so. Trump stole and hoarded government documents for some as yet unknown purpose. Also illegal and you’re again correct to say so.
But stop saying ‘they both did the same thing’. That’s simply wrong.
Boru
They compromised classified documents.
Same offense for both.
Then why do you keep harping that Trump had the ability to declassify?
And it’s really not the same offense. Just like stealing medicine because you have a sick child at home is not the same as stealing medicine because you’re cooking meth.
Like it or not, motive DOES matter.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 4:05 pm
Trump Superpac Raises $40 In August
Quote:Former U.S. President Donald Trump's "The Make America Great Again, Again!" super Pac raised a total of $40 in August. The only active super Pac related to Trump had raised $351,000 in July and zero dollars in June.
Either Trump’s fundraising appeal is done or his donors are finally broke.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 4:38 pm
(September 23, 2022 at 4:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Trump Superpac Raises $40 In August
Quote:Former U.S. President Donald Trump's "The Make America Great Again, Again!" super Pac raised a total of $40 in August. The only active super Pac related to Trump had raised $351,000 in July and zero dollars in June.
Either Trump’s fundraising appeal is done or his donors are finally broke.
Boru Possibly both
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 5:10 pm
(September 19, 2022 at 5:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Trump keeps warning that, if he’s indicted, the US will probably face ‘problems like no one has ever seen’. This is probably true - it’s very unlikely that American infrastructure can handle hundreds of millions of people simultaneously taking to the streets in joyful celebration.
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As someone who works very close to one of the main FBI buildings, I'm a little more concerned about the vocal minority who might take serious action in response to his indictment.
(September 23, 2022 at 4:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Trump Superpac Raises $40 In August
Quote:Former U.S. President Donald Trump's "The Make America Great Again, Again!" super Pac raised a total of $40 in August. The only active super Pac related to Trump had raised $351,000 in July and zero dollars in June.
Either Trump’s fundraising appeal is done or his donors are finally broke.
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"Mr. Trump’s fundraising network features seven political action committees, which altogether have $122m on hand."
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 5:15 pm
(September 23, 2022 at 4:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 23, 2022 at 3:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: They compromised classified documents.
Same offense for both.
Then why do you keep harping that Trump had the ability to declassify?
And it’s really not the same offense. Just like stealing medicine because you have a sick child at home is not the same as stealing medicine because you’re cooking meth.
Like it or not, motive DOES matter.
Boru
It IS the same offense.
Motive only counts in SENTENCING.....
We' ll knock a year off the traitors sentence for good intentions....
Still not a hero...
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 5:33 pm
Quote:It IS the same offense.
Motive only counts in SENTENCING.....
We' ll knock a year off the traitors sentence for good intentions....
Still not a hero...
Actually, motivation matters period and yes she was a hero.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 5:48 pm
(September 23, 2022 at 5:33 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:It IS the same offense.
Motive only counts in SENTENCING.....
We' ll knock a year off the traitors sentence for good intentions....
Still not a hero...
Actually, motivation matters period and yes she was a hero.
Your hero. A sack of shit who disobeyed orders - fucked chain of command and made a mockery of security.
You know dick. You never had to sit through hours long grillings by FBI/NAVSEC agents and hooked up to lie detectors because some arrogant cocksucker sold out our security.
I did.
The Walkers were selling keymats that I had access to. And I worked in a low security facility - where it would have been very easy for me to sell those keymats to the Soviets - just like that shithead Walker...All of the operators at the station were subject to the same thing.
Because some cocksucker thought themselves better than the oath they took to security.
So fuck yourself you ignorant piece of shit.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 5:54 pm
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Quote:Your hero. A sack of shit who disobeyed orders - fucked chain of command and made a mockery of security.
You know dick. You never had to sit through hours long grillings by FBI/NAVSEC agents and hooked up to lie detectors because some arrogant cocksucker sold out our security.
I did.
The Walkers were selling keymats that I had access to. And I worked in a low security facility - where it would have been very easy for me to sell those keymats to the Soviets - just like that shithead Walker...All of the operators at the station were subject to the same thing.
Because some cocksucker thought themselves better than the oath they took to security.
So fuck yourself you ignorant piece of shit.
So this little rage-filled rant of yours refutes nothing I have said.
1. The US government was covering up evil shit
2. Manning exposed the evil shit they were covering up
3. Selling secrets to the Soviets is nothing like exposing your own government's misdeeds to the public
Now take your pills and simmer down before you have a stroke, Debbie .....
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 10:52 pm
Making an oath unthinkingly and clinging to it unthinkingly even when the group you made that oath to has committed illegal or morally evil acts and is trying to conceal them is not a virtue it's a vice.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread
September 23, 2022 at 11:37 pm
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(September 23, 2022 at 4:00 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 23, 2022 at 3:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: They compromised classified documents.
Same offense for both.
Then why do you keep harping that Trump had the ability to declassify?
And it’s really not the same offense. Just like stealing medicine because you have a sick child at home is not the same as stealing medicine because you’re cooking meth.
Like it or not, motive DOES matter.
Boru
I legit don’t know how worth it it is to argue with someone who thinks that someone with a panoply of guns who has repeatedly expressed a desire to assassinate a presidential candidate shouldn’t be investigated for that; balks at the idea of law enforcement investigating placing pipe bombs at the RNC and DNC headquarters after they’ve been deactivated; thinks that if the people who built a gallows on the Capitol lawn didn’t utilize a long drop in their design, then there was no lethal intent among the protesters that day, even when people shouted “Hang Mike Pence;” or that parents have the right to force their kids to breathe in toxic gases in their own home.
This is a man who seems to believe whatever is advantageous at any given moment to win an argument. While he might not be alt-right, this video seems to sum up his rhetorical style perfectly:
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
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