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RE: Women as priests
July 16, 2017 at 10:31 pm
(July 16, 2017 at 6:13 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: (July 16, 2017 at 5:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You seem kind of distressed and a little surprised that religions are not free and equitable institutions. I'm not sure how to process that.
Boru I'm surprised because most moderates don't say anything about this.
"Moderate" is another word for Heretic.
An eternal and unchanging God needs no revision. He got it all correct in the first place.
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RE: Women as priests
July 16, 2017 at 10:40 pm
(July 16, 2017 at 5:13 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: (July 16, 2017 at 4:57 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Dafuq?
Old Testament and New, woman can't instruct men in religion.
You're free to announce a revelation, write up some new Sacred Scriptures and start your own religion, you know, be HONEST about how you are seeing YOUR faith works and what you see as your message to the world. But seriously, advocating heresy/apostasy inside an existing faith??
Come on.
Shit.
It's like drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa. That's desecration. You're so sure you're on the right track with God, put in the leg work, do the work and start your own faith.
This hammering an existing religion into what YOU want is offensive. And wrong theologically too. An eternal and unchanging God, as no doubt YOUR new religion is going to present Him/Her is going to frown on folks coming in and wanting to change things, and yet you feel justified to waltz in to another church, running for 2000 years possibly, and start change THEIR shit to fit YOUR ideas about how THEY otta be doing things. I don't get your point. First off, I think that religion is man made and there is no god. The rule that women shouldn't be priests is made by men, who wanted controll. And if God was real and good, he wouldn't stop anyone who worshipped him based by their sex.
Second, how about other jobs that were only for men? Do you think that we should've create other jobs for women, instead of letting them have man-only jobs? Or how about the wright to wote? Should've women get the wright to vote anything else but what men were voting?
Religion might be man made in your opinion, but marching into a church and informing them of that might get you booted out.
How many churchy folks are going to let you come in, as a self admitted "there is no God" type, and start telling them how to run their churches ??
As for the rule about women shouldn't be priests being made by controlling men is also your opinion. It might even be true, but the folks in many churches don't believe that at all and if you march in and start preaching heresy they are going to boot you out.
If God was real ?? You march into a church and start spouting off like that they will boot you out.
And then you go from church matters to equal employment, a different topic for a different thread.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 9:13 am
(July 16, 2017 at 10:40 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (July 16, 2017 at 5:13 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: I don't get your point. First off, I think that religion is man made and there is no god. The rule that women shouldn't be priests is made by men, who wanted controll. And if God was real and good, he wouldn't stop anyone who worshipped him based by their sex.
Second, how about other jobs that were only for men? Do you think that we should've create other jobs for women, instead of letting them have man-only jobs? Or how about the wright to wote? Should've women get the wright to vote anything else but what men were voting?
Religion might be man made in your opinion, but marching into a church and informing them of that might get you booted out.
How many churchy folks are going to let you come in, as a self admitted "there is no God" type, and start telling them how to run their churches ??
As for the rule about women shouldn't be priests being made by controlling men is also your opinion. It might even be true, but the folks in many churches don't believe that at all and if you march in and start preaching heresy they are going to boot you out.
If God was real ?? You march into a church and start spouting off like that they will boot you out.
And then you go from church matters to equal employment, a different topic for a different thread. I guess you're right. But I still think that it's not right that women don't have the right to become priests.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 12:13 pm
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Why? It's their little club, they get to make the rules. Hardcore religionists don't believe in rights anyway, only retribution.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 12:23 pm
Don't you need a tallywhacker to be a priest? Women would be priestesses. But that term brings up to many negative pagan connotations. All that blood and stuff.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 12:36 pm
like all those menstruation rules in Leviticus ?
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 1:39 pm
Throughout the Bible, women are consistently described as inferior to men. Women were made by god to make sons and to serve as sex slaves. Women had less importance and less value than a goat. The book requires a girl to marry her rapist, after he pays her father for her. The book gives instruction to fathers on selling their daughters into slavery. The book of Revelations states that "women MIGHT be saved through child-bearing". All Abrahamic religions clearly believe that women aren't PEOPLE - and that's what the system is based on.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 2:36 pm
LE 15:19 A woman who is menstruating is unclean. Anyone who touches her is unclean.
LE 15:20 Anything which a woman who is menstruating sits on or lies on is unclean.
LE 15:21 Anyone who touches the bed of a woman who is menstruating must wash his clothes and bathe, and is unclean until evening.
LE 15:22 Anyone who touches anything which was sat upon by a woman who is menstruating must wash his clothes and bathe, and is unclean until evening.
LE 15:24 If a man lies with a woman who is menstruating and any of her discharge touches him, he is unclean for seven days. Any bed he lies on is also unclean.
LE 15:28 After her flow stops, a woman who was menstruating must count off seven days before she is considered clean again. On the eighth day, she must present two birds to the priest for an atonement for having had a menstrual discharge.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 3:12 pm
Crafty fuckers, weren't they, monetizing the menstrual cycle centuries before feminine products were a market.
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RE: Women as priests
July 17, 2017 at 3:47 pm
And what of their local deve element ?
You know, the men on Craig's List looking for women entertaining Aunt Flo . . .
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