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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 7:48 am
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(July 28, 2017 at 4:39 am)ignoramus Wrote: While I got you mate.
If the universe is infinite, then for all intents and purposes, can we say that Earth is the centre of the universe? You know, The way God intended?
GC, LR, I'm pm'ing you my paypal address for some donations. I think I can fake being a smarter theist than a theist!
Sure!
Do you remember the user StatlerWaldorf who was around a few years ago. He always advertised this ingenious creationist cosmology based on the ambiguity how clocks are synchronized in relativity. You can consistently use a convention in which light travelling towards the earth has infinite speed, and away from earth has half of what we perceive as the speed of light. This is completely unfalsifiable because it is a self-consistent relabeling of everything that doesn't change any measurable physics. It has as a consequence that what we see in the far reaches of the universe actually happens at this very moment. This way, some smart creationists wanted to justify why we can see far away Galaxies even if the universe is only 6000 years old. It's very implausible for a whole list of reasons though.
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 7:59 am
(July 28, 2017 at 2:30 am)Alex K Wrote: (July 28, 2017 at 12:13 am)ignoramus Wrote: Pretty sure Alex got his break by buying the Dummies guide to theoretical particle physics!
I kinda wrote it...  In German. The English translation is still at the editorial stage. I got a peek preview last year. Very helpful.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 8:07 am
(July 28, 2017 at 7:59 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: (July 28, 2017 at 2:30 am)Alex K Wrote: I kinda wrote it... In German. The English translation is still at the editorial stage. I got a peek preview last year. Very helpful.
Looking for someone to actually pay a decent amount for the translation . I'm just too busy right now to do it for free, but I surely will at some point.
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 8:25 am
(July 28, 2017 at 7:48 am)Alex K Wrote: (July 28, 2017 at 4:39 am)ignoramus Wrote: While I got you mate.
If the universe is infinite, then for all intents and purposes, can we say that Earth is the centre of the universe? You know, The way God intended?
GC, LR, I'm pm'ing you my paypal address for some donations. I think I can fake being a smarter theist than a theist!
Sure!
Do you remember the user StatlerWaldorf who was around a few years ago. He always advertised this ingenious creationist cosmology based on the ambiguity how clocks are synchronized in relativity. You can consistently use a convention in which light travelling towards the earth has infinite speed, and away from earth has half of what we perceive as the speed of light. This is completely unfalsifiable because it is a self-consistent relabeling of everything that doesn't change any measurable physics. It has as a consequence that what we see in the far reaches of the universe actually happens at this very moment. This way, some smart creationists wanted to justify why we can see far away Galaxies even if the universe is only 6000 years old. It's very implausible for a whole list of reasons though. I would think that the Earth could be said to be at the subjective center of an infinite universe, though not for any reason that supports creationism. In an infinite universe, wherever you are at any point is the center because there's no circumference and there will always be the same amount of space all around you.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 8:50 am
Little girl's voice, with arms extended way out to the side, "The universe is THIS BIG!"
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 9:25 am
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(July 28, 2017 at 8:25 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: (July 28, 2017 at 7:48 am)Alex K Wrote: Sure!
Do you remember the user StatlerWaldorf who was around a few years ago. He always advertised this ingenious creationist cosmology based on the ambiguity how clocks are synchronized in relativity. You can consistently use a convention in which light travelling towards the earth has infinite speed, and away from earth has half of what we perceive as the speed of light. This is completely unfalsifiable because it is a self-consistent relabeling of everything that doesn't change any measurable physics. It has as a consequence that what we see in the far reaches of the universe actually happens at this very moment. This way, some smart creationists wanted to justify why we can see far away Galaxies even if the universe is only 6000 years old. It's very implausible for a whole list of reasons though. I would think that the Earth could be said to be at the subjective center of an infinite universe, though not for any reason that supports creationism. In an infinite universe, wherever you are at any point is the center because there's no circumference and there will always be the same amount of space all around you.
Wrong. I am the subjective center of the universe. Earth merely knows which side of its crust is buttered and sticks close to me.
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 9:41 am
(July 28, 2017 at 9:25 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Wrong. I am the subjective center of the universe. Earth merely knows which side of its crust is buttered and sticks close to me.
But I churn the butter. You just apply it. So I'm the subjective center and you're the distributor.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 10:07 am
I'm the center of the universe, and so is my wife!
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 10:26 am
(July 28, 2017 at 10:07 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm the center of the universe, and so is my wife!
BLASPHEMY! ABBA IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!
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RE: How big is the universe?
July 28, 2017 at 11:02 am
(July 28, 2017 at 10:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: (July 28, 2017 at 10:07 am)Alex K Wrote: I'm the center of the universe, and so is my wife!
BLASPHEMY! ABBA IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!
I thought they passed the torch to new swedish pop sensation "Ace of Base"
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