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Which Jesus is real?
#21
RE: Which Jesus is real?
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#22
RE: Which Jesus is real?
(July 29, 2017 at 6:53 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: For as many cultures there are as many Jesus'.

There's a black Jesus for the African American community.
There's a Spanish Jesus for the Mexican community.
There's a Caucasian Jesus for the white community.
Etc, etc, etc.

Would the real Jesus please stand up?

With so many different cultures viewing Jesus as the non-white, supposed "superior white" Jesus, how is one to know which is the correct Jesus?
None are correct, as we are not to worship images of God.


Quote:With a god who is supposed to be so powerful, one would think he could straighten out who Jesus is.
if He indeed wanted us to worship images.


Quote:If Jesus cannot be considered the white version through ministry, what is the purpose of ministry
unless you are a racist what does it matter what color Jesus is? ministry is teaching the fundamentals of the Gospel. Nowhere in the Gospel is race a determining factor, so then why should ministry change at all?


Quote:The problem with ministry is that it thinks it changes the culture, yet perhaps it doesn't.
The Romans would disagree.


Quote:The Asian Jesus agrees.

Asian Jesus is alive, cant do any of his miracles anymore so... probably false prophet.


Quote:Ministry certainly destroys cultures, but replaces it with the culture's own version of Jesus.
if culture= sodomy and anonymous sex, then yes expect a change. if not, then not. Christianity work well with 'good people.'


Quote:How is that in accordance with Christianity?
If you are a sex based culture/carnal culture then it forbids the carnal 'morality.' It is in accordance with Christianity.


Quote:It is not.
ya,huh!


Quote:It must certainly piss of the white Christians.
Dunno
I'd say 'white Christians' don't give two ff's what other people need to think or do so long as they can have their faith.

Quote:In the end, no Jesus is real.  Jesus is a fictional character perpetuated by a religion that thinks it has the world's best interest in mind when in fact it merely wants control of the world through religious belief.
dumbest review ever.

In the end no jesus is real... then I guess I can stop paying my pool guy. Even though He seems real, I must be the one cleaning my own pool. That is if you are right..

If you mean to say the Jesus of the bible is not real, then History would indeed argue that point as well. Because there is more written about Jesus of the bible than any other man in History.

Then you roll into a pile of "Jesus is a banner that all christian's unite behind." if this were even close to being true then why are their so many churches?
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#23
RE: Which Jesus is real?
You're as dumb as a bag of cunt hair, dripshit. 

But by all means don't pay your pool guy.  I imagine he'll drown your sorry ass.
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#24
RE: Which Jesus is real?
(August 3, 2017 at 1:34 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 29, 2017 at 6:53 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: For as many cultures there are as many Jesus'.

There's a black Jesus for the African American community.
There's a Spanish Jesus for the Mexican community.
There's a Caucasian Jesus for the white community.
Etc, etc, etc.

Would the real Jesus please stand up?

With so many different cultures viewing Jesus as the non-white, supposed "superior white" Jesus, how is one to know which is the correct Jesus?
None are correct, as we are not to worship images of God.


Quote:With a god who is supposed to be so powerful, one would think he could straighten out who Jesus is.
if He indeed wanted us to worship images.


Quote:If Jesus cannot be considered the white version through ministry, what is the purpose of ministry
unless you are a racist what does it matter what color Jesus is? ministry is teaching the fundamentals of the Gospel. Nowhere in the Gospel is race a determining factor, so then why should ministry change at all?


Quote:The problem with ministry is that it thinks it changes the culture, yet perhaps it doesn't.
The Romans would disagree.


Quote:The Asian Jesus agrees.

Asian Jesus is alive, cant do any of his miracles anymore so... probably false prophet.


Quote:Ministry certainly destroys cultures, but replaces it with the culture's own version of Jesus.
if culture= sodomy and anonymous sex, then yes expect a change. if not, then not. Christianity work well with 'good people.'


Quote:How is that in accordance with Christianity?
If you are a sex based culture/carnal culture then it forbids the carnal 'morality.' It is in accordance with Christianity.


Quote:It is not.
ya,huh!


Quote:It must certainly piss of the white Christians.
Dunno
I'd say 'white Christians' don't give two ff's what other people need to think or do so long as they can have their faith.

Quote:In the end, no Jesus is real.  Jesus is a fictional character perpetuated by a religion that thinks it has the world's best interest in mind when in fact it merely wants control of the world through religious belief.
dumbest review ever.

In the end no jesus is real... then I guess I can stop paying my pool guy. Even though He seems real, I must be the one cleaning my own pool. That is if you are right..

If you mean to say the Jesus of the bible is not real, then History would indeed argue that point as well. Because there is more written about Jesus of the bible than any other man in History.

Then you roll into a pile of "Jesus is a banner that all christian's unite behind." if this were even close to being true then why are their so many churches?

Bullcrap, since the theist claims Jesus is God in human form creating an image of Jesus is worship. 

The reason you have Italian looking Jesus, or Hispanic looking Mary's or French or German looking Jesus, is the same reason a Buddha in China is going to look slightly different than one depicted in India. Because the character reflects the society the believer lives in.

In reality in Mesopotamia BACK THEN anyone polytheist or monotheist would ON AVERAGE have more olive or dark skin tones. 

You have tunnel vision when it comes to what someone sold you long ago. And humans do not survive the death myth as the bible would imply in any case. So arguing over what should be worshiped or not, is pointless. Just as pointless when Muslims claim one should not depict Mo. 

No human has any magic powers to communicate with fictional beings regardless.
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#25
RE: Which Jesus is real?
The church dear old mom went to had a big picture of a blue eyed, not too far off of blond, and not particularly hairy Jesus up behind the altar.

Shame if she got to heaven and didn't recognize Jesus and wound up bounced the other way as a result.
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#26
RE: Which Jesus is real?
(August 3, 2017 at 1:55 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Bullcrap, since the theist claims Jesus is God in human form creating an image of Jesus is worship. 
and that command is found where??? oh that;s right we do not have a command to worship images of God, but only if we had a command to not worship an image of God in any way shape or form....

Quote:The reason you have Italian looking Jesus, or Hispanic looking Mary's or French or German looking Jesus, is the same reason a Buddha in China is going to look slightly different than one depicted in India. Because the character reflects the society the believer lives in.

In reality in Mesopotamia BACK THEN anyone polytheist or monotheist would ON AVERAGE have more olive or dark skin tones. 
Panic Panic

Quote:You have tunnel vision when it comes to what someone sold you long ago. And humans do not survive the death myth as the bible would imply in any case. So arguing over what should be worshiped or not, is pointless. Just as pointless when Muslims claim one should not depict Mo. 

No human has any magic powers to communicate with fictional beings regardless.
What a small limited way to think..

Asserted anoter way...

Could a transdemsional being exist, that has the ability to communicate with those in whom He wishes to communicate? Maybe not through magic but perhaps through technology or even through a naturally occurring process we simply are too stupid to understand?

The only reason God is depicted as 'magic' is because the last time he was seen was when we did not have the vocabulary to describe anything different.
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#27
RE: Which Jesus is real?
(August 3, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Drich Wrote: No human has any magic powers to communicate with fictional beings regardless.
What a small limited way to think..

Asserted anoter way...

Could a transdemsional being exist, that has the ability to communicate with those in whom He wishes to communicate? Maybe not through magic but perhaps through technology or even through a naturally occurring process we simply are too stupid to understand?

The only reason God is depicted as 'magic' is because the last time he was seen was when we did not have the vocabulary to describe anything different.

Yeah, Reality seems small compared to the realm of imagination.

That's the only reason?  Or is that the only reason you're willing to accept?
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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#28
RE: Which Jesus is real?
Quote:What a small limited way to think..

It's called reality you fucking moron.
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#29
RE: Which Jesus is real?
(August 4, 2017 at 9:11 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(August 3, 2017 at 4:32 pm)Drich Wrote: No human has any magic powers to communicate with fictional beings regardless.
What a small limited way to think..

Asserted anoter way...

Could a transdemsional being exist, that has the ability to communicate with those in whom He wishes to communicate? Maybe not through magic but perhaps through technology or even through a naturally occurring process we simply are too stupid to understand?

The only reason God is depicted as 'magic' is because the last time he was seen was when we did not have the vocabulary to describe anything different.

Yeah, Reality seems small compared to the realm of imagination.

That's the only reason?  Or is that the only reason you're willing to accept?

Not very thinker-ery are you.

Science= anti magic anti imagination... Needs proof. (not really but that is what most of you tell yourselves. So we are going with that)

Traditional God= The source of magic. why? not because the bible says he must be, but that is how he was observed because we did not have the vocabulary.

Now that we have a more expansive vocabulary let us apply it to God. God lives outside our time and space. and God can interact with in our time and space. Our time and space that is one dimension, His own would be another, that is multidimensional right therr, right therr.
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#30
RE: Which Jesus is real?
(August 8, 2017 at 8:42 am)Drich Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 9:11 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Yeah, Reality seems small compared to the realm of imagination.

That's the only reason?  Or is that the only reason you're willing to accept?

Not very thinker-ery are you.

Science= anti magic anti imagination... Needs proof. (not really but that is what most of you tell yourselves. So we are going with that)

Traditional God= The source of magic. why? not because the bible says he must be, but that is how he was observed because we did not have the vocabulary.

Now that we have a more expansive vocabulary let us apply it to God. God lives outside our time and space. and God can interact with in our time and space. Our time and space that is one dimension, His own would be another, that is multidimensional right therr, right therr.

Awww...Drippy thinks i'm stupid.  Gonna bother me all...second.

So god was observed being the source of magic? Outside the bible?

And time and space is one dimension?  I wonder which of us is really not very thinkery...
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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