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Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
#81
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
Jawdrop
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#82
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 6, 2017 at 11:02 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Jawdrop

Is that in response to the shit-eater's inanity? Let me tell ya, that's MILD compared to his usual shit.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#83
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 6, 2017 at 11:25 am)Astonished Wrote:
(August 6, 2017 at 11:02 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Jawdrop

Is that in response to the shit-eater's inanity? Let me tell ya, that's MILD compared to his usual shit.

Yes it is
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#84
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 6, 2017 at 10:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is pretty obvious that atheists find very very hard to understand something so simple.
Most atheists believe that we are here in this world with our knowledge and consciousness thanks to previous generations or better say thanks to the evolution of the species.
That is garbage that unfortunately grip the mind of most atheists.
Life teach us that that is not possible.
Nobody give you something for free.
Even a pedo that give lollies to a kid does that for a reason.
If we got something it is obvious that we earn it in this or in previous lives and everything that we have to endure is a consequence or result of previous actions in this or in previous lives.
This is not only karma but also science.
Doesn't science teach that every action has an equal and opposite reaction?
So who is responsible for the actions other than us.
Us is the I.
The I is our consciousness.
An earthquake or any other calamity is not our own creation.
We are not responsible for it.
If we die because of it our karma does not alter, activated and produce any further bad reaction.
Bad reactions are only due to our previous actions so if we die under the rubble of an earthquake it is because of our previous bad actions.

That's some mighty fine word salad woo. No wonder we have issues not understanding, most people would, atheist or not.

I understood one sentence: "Doesn't science teach that every action has an equal and opposite reaction?" The rest, I can pull the words out and understand them individually but the way you mash them up together, well, it's dribble. 

Sounds to me like you have the mind of a child.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#85
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 6, 2017 at 12:39 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(August 6, 2017 at 10:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is pretty obvious that atheists find very very hard to understand something so simple.
Most atheists believe that we are here in this world with our knowledge and consciousness thanks to previous generations or better say thanks to the evolution of the species.
That is garbage that unfortunately grip the mind of most atheists.
Life teach us that that is not possible.
Nobody give you something for free.
Even a pedo that give lollies to a kid does that for a reason.
If we got something it is obvious that we earn it in this or in previous lives and everything that we have to endure is a consequence or result of previous actions in this or in previous lives.
This is not only karma but also science.
Doesn't science teach that every action has an equal and opposite reaction?
So who is responsible for the actions other than us.
Us is the I.
The I is our consciousness.
An earthquake or any other calamity is not our own creation.
We are not responsible for it.
If we die because of it our karma does not alter, activated and produce any further bad reaction.
Bad reactions are only due to our previous actions so if we die under the rubble of an earthquake it is because of our previous bad actions.

That's some mighty fine word salad woo. No wonder we have issues not understanding, most people would, atheist or not.

I understood one sentence: "Doesn't science teach that every action has an equal and opposite reaction?" The rest, I can pull the words out and understand them individually but the way you mash them up together, well, it's dribble. 

Sounds to me like you have the mind of a child.

Don't say that, it's insulting to children. Rolleyes
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

---

There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#86
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 6, 2017 at 9:33 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I'll probably regret this but could you give us your dissertation on the "I"?

Well "I" for 1 regret you asking.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#87
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 6, 2017 at 12:39 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(August 6, 2017 at 10:57 am)Little Rik Wrote: It is pretty obvious that atheists find very very hard to understand something so simple.
Most atheists believe that we are here in this world with our knowledge and consciousness thanks to previous generations or better say thanks to the evolution of the species.
That is garbage that unfortunately grip the mind of most atheists.
Life teach us that that is not possible.
Nobody give you something for free.
Even a pedo that give lollies to a kid does that for a reason.
If we got something it is obvious that we earn it in this or in previous lives and everything that we have to endure is a consequence or result of previous actions in this or in previous lives.
This is not only karma but also science.
Doesn't science teach that every action has an equal and opposite reaction?
So who is responsible for the actions other than us.
Us is the I.
The I is our consciousness.
An earthquake or any other calamity is not our own creation.
We are not responsible for it.
If we die because of it our karma does not alter, activated and produce any further bad reaction.
Bad reactions are only due to our previous actions so if we die under the rubble of an earthquake it is because of our previous bad actions.

That's some mighty fine word salad woo. No wonder we have issues not understanding, most people would, atheist or not.

I understood one sentence: "Doesn't science teach that every action has an equal and opposite reaction?" The rest, I can pull the words out and understand them individually but the way you mash them up together, well, it's dribble. 

Sounds to me like you have the mind of a child.


I am sure a child would understand what I said.

And guess why?
Because the mind of a child is free from dogmas unlike an atheist which mind is saturated with countless dogmas.  Banging Head On Desk
As simple as that.  Shy
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#88
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 7, 2017 at 5:08 am)Little Rik Wrote: I am sure a child would understand what I said.

And guess why?
Because the mind of a child is free from dogmas unlike an atheist which mind is saturated with countless dogmas.  Banging Head On Desk
As simple as that.  Shy

It's spelled simpleton.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#89
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
(August 1, 2017 at 12:20 pm)CeruleanNight Wrote: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis

If the idea of an invisible deity doesn't appeal to you, the trick is to focus on the flesh-and-blood Jesus  instead..Smile-
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus.." (Hebrews 12:2)
For example at one point doubting Thomas thought Jesus was a ghost, so Jesus said-
"You numbnuts, I'm as solid as you! Here, feel where them Romans stuck a spear into me"

[Image: Jesus-thomas_zpsyoowhobm.jpg]
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#90
RE: Believing in Deities is a Form of Psychosis
Little Rik Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:Um, any group of people can have a consistent response on a position concerning reality (or imagination). Can they have a consistent and correct response to a question to which I know the answer, but which they should not be able to ascertain by physical means? Or any similarly miraculous knowledge that can be shown to be extraordinary yet verifiable?

That is not possible for a very good reason.
It would be like to give the keys of your car to your little kid.
It would be very very dangerous although is quite possible but it would be something totally irresponsible.
As soon as you start the spiritual path towards infinity then your guru or teacher take care of you as you would take care of your little kid-s.
By giving the keys of your car to your little one you automatically put him-her in a position of high danger.
The same goes for the relationship that goes on between you and your spiritual teacher.
Of course he could give you all the power to move mountains, do miracles, win at lotto, be a superman that can fly or any extraordinary thing you can imagine but for obvious reason he will not do that.
He want you to progress spiritually and merge into his ocean of cosmic consciousness and the only way to achieve that is to give to you only what you can deal with and not give you anything that may drag you back in your spiritual progress.

I guess you never thought about that MA, did you?  Shy

That you wouldn't be able to support your 'intuitional science' with any confirmable results? That was expected. It's not like we haven't met. Too bad you're not adult enough to be given the power to move one smallish mountain in one minute, you could take care of this debate very neatly.

There are two obvious reasons why he will not do that: One, he has a very good reason to not do that. Two, he doesn't exist. Either way, nothing backing up the notion that YOU have any idea what you're talking about, since he either doesn't see fit to back you up or you're imagining him.

One thing you've demonstrated in your time here is that you have a very fervid imagination.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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