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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 4:20 pm
(August 8, 2017 at 1:24 pm)pabsta Wrote: I've already addressed this in a previous post. The author claims that from his research, the miracle was visible within a 600 square mile area. Testimonials show that everyone who was there that day saw it. There are no testimonials of people who were on the spot who said they saw nothing. Reading other testimonials confirms this. Remember, THOUSANDS of pages of testimonials were reviewed by the Catholic Church over 13 years. And as I already mentioned, the book I mentioned gives many examples of people that were NOT believers and who went to the site to mock the whole idea. They left as believers. You should really get the book because everything you are saying is covered in it.
The Author is wrong on all accounts. Theologian Lisa Schwebel said that not all present saw the phenomenon. So that already discounts the fact that testimonials show that everyone who was there that day saw it. And I've yet to find anywhere that says people within 600 square miles saw it. Not to mention the fact that just about everyone on earth should have been able to see it (at least where it's day time) BECAUSE WE ALL SEE THE EXACT SAME SUN. And it should have been in the astrological record, but wasn't.
If the Author is going to lie about there being no testimonials where people saw nothing, then the author is going to lie about anything else--especially the presence of non-believer who left as believers. So i don't think I'll be checking said book out.
And you'll have to excuse me for not buying what a church who has long covered up for pedophile priests has to say.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 4:40 pm
(August 8, 2017 at 4:20 pm)Cecelia Wrote: (August 8, 2017 at 1:24 pm)pabsta Wrote: I've already addressed this in a previous post. The author claims that from his research, the miracle was visible within a 600 square mile area. Testimonials show that everyone who was there that day saw it. There are no testimonials of people who were on the spot who said they saw nothing. Reading other testimonials confirms this. Remember, THOUSANDS of pages of testimonials were reviewed by the Catholic Church over 13 years. And as I already mentioned, the book I mentioned gives many examples of people that were NOT believers and who went to the site to mock the whole idea. They left as believers. You should really get the book because everything you are saying is covered in it.
The Author is wrong on all accounts. Theologian Lisa Schwebel said that not all present saw the phenomenon. So that already discounts the fact that testimonials show that everyone who was there that day saw it. And I've yet to find anywhere that says people within 600 square miles saw it. Not to mention the fact that just about everyone on earth should have been able to see it (at least where it's day time) BECAUSE WE ALL SEE THE EXACT SAME SUN. And it should have been in the astrological record, but wasn't.
If the Author is going to lie about there being no testimonials where people saw nothing, then the author is going to lie about anything else--especially the presence of non-believer who left as believers. So i don't think I'll be checking said book out.
And you'll have to excuse me for not buying what a church who has long covered up for pedophile priests has to say.
Ah, but you see, this was a special Catholic sun that only Catholics could see.
The rest of us aren't worthy.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 5:08 pm
(August 8, 2017 at 2:03 pm)pabsta Wrote: A quick example. My father-in-law was a real estate agent for 30 years.
Convenient that you don't cite a source so we can verify this. I'll chalk that up to lie #1.
Quote:Only once in his entire career did he come across the supernatural. He had just sold a condo to a family, and suddenly he heard they had abandoned the house and their belongings and were suing him.
No source listed to be able to verify this. Lie #2
Quote:Come to find out the condo was completely haunted, stuff flying all over the rooms, something biting the children's toes in the middle of the night, stuff going on in the attic, the whole deal as is seen on episodes of, "A Haunting".
Lie #3. Citing a tv show doesn't prove shit since every single tv show on paranormal activity depicts the same thing.
Quote:This kind of problem has happened enough over the years where there is an actual law in real estate stating that the real estate broker MUST let the buyer know if the house is haunted.
Lie #4. There are ZERO laws on any books in any state in the US that say this. There is, however, this which is an article that discusses whether or not one must disclose any paranormal activity in a house that's for sale. And the tl:dr version basically states that unless your house is famously recognized as being haunted, you DO NOT have to disclose it as such.
Quote:This family was suing my father-in-law claiming he broke this law. Long story short, the problem in the house was very difficult to eradicate, and it became very well known in the area. It took a Catholic priest to eventually fix the problem.
Bahahahah!!
No proof. No sources. Nothing of the sort. All lies though.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 5:17 pm
You know, this is a story I rarely tell people these days because it's kinda creepy.
I worked in a morgue for just over a year.
At the end of my time there I was responsible for training the guy who would replace me.
And, one day, he was due to sit in on his first autopsy. I warned him about not eating for the 24 hours before it.
But he did.
And do you know what happened? No word of a lie: he puked on my shoes.
Really creepy.
What? You expected a story of the supernatural?
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 5:20 pm
(August 8, 2017 at 2:54 pm)ohreally Wrote: BS, there is no law in real estate about ghosts.
This is not necessarily true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmatized_property
Stambovsky v. Ackley - the property did not in fact have to *be* haunted, the seller just had to believe it was.
The OP is probably full of shit, however.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 5:43 pm
My husband thought he saw a ghost when he was 12. It's kind of creepy, because his mom said that his description of the ghost perfectly matched her grandfather. Granted, his description of the ghost was "Tall man with a beard".
Of course if that means "ghosts exist" then the Easter Bunny does too, because he swears when he was 11 he saw the Easter Bunny.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 5:51 pm
I saw an Easter Bunny one time.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 5:58 pm
(August 8, 2017 at 5:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I saw an Easter Bunny one time.
She looks . . . familiar.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 6:54 pm
(August 8, 2017 at 5:20 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (August 8, 2017 at 2:54 pm)ohreally Wrote: BS, there is no law in real estate about ghosts.
This is not necessarily true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmatized_property
Stambovsky v. Ackley - the property did not in fact have to *be* haunted, the seller just had to believe it was.
The OP is probably full of shit, however. Not just that but the seller claimed it was haunted but did not disclose to the buyer. The case nor the laws actually deal with if a ghost is actually present or not.
If ghosts were real they would be listed in the material disclosure portion because they would be detectable in an inspection.
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RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 8, 2017 at 6:55 pm
Quote:The OP is probably full of shit, however.
Make that a definite.
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