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Anyone see gods not dead?
#31
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 10, 2017 at 4:04 pm)Dropship Wrote:
(August 10, 2017 at 3:51 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: ...You know, The bit about owning human beings as property...

That's only ancient Old Testament stuff mate! If God had wanted us to stick with it, he wouldn't have sent JC to give us the New  T, (the clue is in the name)..Smile
And people quickly realised-
"The covenant of which Jesus is mediator is superior to the old one" (Heb 8:6)
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter 1:18 )
Only that false messiah never once condemns slavery.
But lets keep playing this game; NT

Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 


Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex 21:15Lev 20:9Dt 21:18-217:9-10


However, I've been to this rodeo previously.  Your dazzling mental gymnastics may ooh and aww the sunday brunch but anyone with even a smidgen of gray matter will see through it.

Now if you'd like actual real life scripture I've got plenty;  "Verily you will be confronted with the false words of pretenders, Lend them not an ear but your heart so they may know the truth of the divine word that is ours" - Ptitm 14:7 
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
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#32
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
I love watching youtube reviews of shit like this. They point out delightful little idiocies like when they bring up the problem of evil, allow the atheist character to debunk it, and then rather than defend it, they just change the fucking subject. Yeah, that's heroic! Or is the fact that they've had to develop dozens of different shit arguments and various permutations of those and can rapid-fire them supposed to make them feel good?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#33
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 10, 2017 at 6:22 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: ..that false messiah never once condemns slavery.
But lets keep playing this game; NT
Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex 21:15Lev 20:9Dt 21:18-217:9-10
Now if you'd like actual real life scripture I've got plenty;  "Verily you will be confronted with the false words of pretenders, Lend them not an ear but your heart so they may know the truth of the divine word that is ours" - Ptitm 14:7 

1- Besides slavery, Jesus never condemned GLBT's either, in fact he never even mentioned them one way or the other, rather he left it peoples own commonsense to do what they consider right..Smile
2- His 'cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes' comment wasn't meant to be taken literally, it was his way of hammering home the fact that they better be pretty damn sure of themselves if they choose to reject him.
3- In which verse exactly does JC say people should kill their disobedient kids?
4- I don't know who this 'Ptitm' bloke is who you quoted, but whoever he is, there are plenty of bible quotes saying the same thing about how we should beware phonies, e.g-
Jesus said - "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.You will know them by their fruits... every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit...Therefore by their fruits you'll know them" (Matt 7:15-20)
#34
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
Staggering ignorance and hypocrisy. But what else is new? Go make a movie like this one so we can make fun of you for that, too.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#35
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 11, 2017 at 9:28 am)Dropship Wrote:
(August 10, 2017 at 6:22 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: ..that false messiah never once condemns slavery.
But lets keep playing this game; NT
Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex 21:15Lev 20:9Dt 21:18-217:9-10
Now if you'd like actual real life scripture I've got plenty;  "Verily you will be confronted with the false words of pretenders, Lend them not an ear but your heart so they may know the truth of the divine word that is ours" - Ptitm 14:7 

1- Besides slavery, Jesus never condemned GLBT's either, in fact he never even mentioned them one way or the other, rather he left it peoples own commonsense to do what they consider right..Smile
2- His 'cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes' comment wasn't meant to be taken literally, it was his way of hammering home the fact that they better be pretty damn sure of themselves if they choose to reject him.
3- In which verse exactly does JC say people should kill their disobedient kids?
4- I don't know who this 'Ptitm' bloke is who you quoted, but whoever he is, there are plenty of bible quotes saying the same thing about how we should beware phonies, e.g-
Jesus said - "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.You will know them by their fruits... every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit...Therefore by their fruits you'll know them" (Matt 7:15-20)
 You avoided answering why jesus never condemns slavery.  It's ok, FSM forgives you.

Ptitim of Afula was a blessed saint that lived roughly 500 years before jebus was around, Many of his teachings were stolen by that fraud.

Have a blessed day.
RAmen.  FSM Grin
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
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#36
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 11, 2017 at 10:27 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: ..You avoided answering why jesus never condemns slavery.  It's ok, FSM forgives you.
Ptitim of Afula was a blessed saint that lived roughly 500 years before jebus was around, Many of his teachings were stolen by that fraud.

1- Jesus didn't arrive with a bucket list of things to speak out for or against, rather he gave us FREE WILL to do as we please.
For examp, I suppose you could keep slaves if you want, but I don't think he'd be too well pleased..Smile
2- There are Great Truths in the universe, so if Ptitim or Buddha or anybody else discovered some of them, full marks to them.
When Jesus arrived and repeated some of them it doesn't mean he stole them..Smile
#37
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 11, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Dropship Wrote:
(August 11, 2017 at 10:27 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: ..You avoided answering why jesus never condemns slavery.  It's ok, FSM forgives you.
Ptitim of Afula was a blessed saint that lived roughly 500 years before jebus was around, Many of his teachings were stolen by that fraud.

1- Jesus didn't arrive with a bucket list of things to speak out for or against, rather he gave us FREE WILL to do as we please.
For examp, I suppose you could keep slaves if you want, but I don't think he'd be too well pleased..Smile
2- There are Great Truths in the universe, so if Ptitim or Buddha or anybody else discovered some of them, full marks to them.
When Jesus arrived and repeated some of them it doesn't mean he stole them..Smile

Perhaps, But me thinks he pilfered them.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
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#38
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 11, 2017 at 8:52 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(August 11, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Dropship Wrote: 1- Jesus didn't arrive with a bucket list of things to speak out for or against, rather he gave us FREE WILL to do as we please.
For examp, I suppose you could keep slaves if you want, but I don't think he'd be too well pleased..Smile
2- There are Great Truths in the universe, so if Ptitim or Buddha or anybody else discovered some of them, full marks to them.
When Jesus arrived and repeated some of them it doesn't mean he stole them..Smile

Perhaps, But me thinks he pilfered them.

Don't let him off the hook for point 1, either. Giving us free will is one thing, giving us impulses we can't control and imposing rules and coercing with fear and giving us laughably bad information to go on (informed consent not really a big moral priority in the babble) is hardly in line with free will.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

---

There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
#39
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 11, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Dropship Wrote: 2- There are Great Truths in the universe, so if Ptitim or Buddha or anybody else discovered some of them, full marks to them.
When Jesus arrived and repeated some of them it doesn't mean he stole them..Smile


Quote:Buddha‘s mother was told by an angel that she’d give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself “the son of man” and was referred to as, “prophet”, “master”, and “Lord”. He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn’t strong enough.

That Jebus discovered these same 'truths' Is one remarkable motherfucking coincidence.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
#40
RE: Anyone see gods not dead?
(August 11, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Dropship Wrote: For examp, I suppose you could keep slaves if you want, but I don't think he'd be too well pleased..Smile

Have you even read your own holy book?!?

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ." (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

"Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them." (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

Your "savior" had no fucking problem with what is arguably the most immoral thing one human can do to another, keeping them as property.

This one's particularly reprehensible:

"The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

Much is required from those to whom much is given?!? What! The! Fuck?!? They're fucking slaves! They haven't even been 'given' basic human dignity.
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