Isn't it funny...

[Amarok]

Either Jesus is the same god who ordered those laws or he isn't .

[The Valkyrie]

You mean, "Isn't it amazing that we, and the other species on the planet, evolved to fit the conditions of our habitat?"

Yeah, really amazing...

[Dropship]

No offence mate, but are you a closet fire-and-brimstone fundy preacherman?
Jesus never said a word  about uncovered heads or foreskins or pork, so why try to pin it on him?..

Either Jesus is God or he isn't! I wish you religious nuts would get your story straight! If Jesus is God then he preached a lot of bullshit in the OT , didn't he?

Jesus is NOT God, he made it perfectly clear plenty of times! Save these verses and use them as ammo to shoot down those mushbrained fundies who try to say he was God, I have great fun slapping them around all over the internet..
Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)
Jesus said - "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28 )
Jesus said - "Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)
High Priest asks - "Are you the Son of God?" ,Jesus replies - "I am" (Mark 14:61)
Jesus said - "I say nothing of my own accord, I only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)
God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

[The Valkyrie]

" … that every person instinctively begs God for help when death appears imminent, whether they previously learned to do this or not?"

Lies.

I've sat with many people as they've died. Those not inclined to do not call out to any gods. And the non religious people tend to be more calm, in general, than the religious ones.

[Amarok]

that every person instinctively begs God for help when death appears imminent, whether they previously learned to do this or not?"

One it's not true . And you have yet to back it up .

[chimp3]

Either Jesus is God or he isn't! I wish you religious nuts would get your story straight! If Jesus is God then he preached a lot of bullshit in the OT , didn't he?

Jesus is NOT God, he made it perfectly clear plenty of times! Save these verses and use them as ammo to shoot down those mushbrained fundies who try to say he was God, I have great fun slapping them around all over the internet..
Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)
Jesus said - "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28 )
Jesus said - "Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)
High Priest asks - "Are you the Son of God?" ,Jesus replies - "I am" (Mark 14:61)
Jesus said - "I say nothing of my own accord, I only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)
God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

You can argue with all the other gullible twits that say Jesus is God. That is a debate I could give don't give a shit about. I have been told by my own pentecostal family that Jesus is god. I say he never existed.

[Dropship]

Somebody said:- that every person instinctively begs God for help when death appears imminent, whether they previously learned to do this or not?"

One it's not true . And you have yet to back it up .

Well there's an old saying- "There are no atheists in foxholes"..
And a stretcher-bearer in WW1 told how when they went out to collect bodies from no mans land, they found that many wounded soldiers had crawled into shell craters and had died there clutching their bibles..

[The Valkyrie]

One it's not true . And you have yet to back it up .

Well there's an old saying- "There are no atheists in foxholes"..
And a stretcher-bearer in WW1 told how when they went out to collect bodies from no mans land, they found that many wounded soldiers had crawled into shell craters and had died there clutching their bibles..

Soldiers died clutching their bibles?  Soldiers went into battle carrying bibles.  They were likely religious anyway.

And "No atheists in foxholes", is a fabrication.

[Amarok]

Okay still does not change the fact that god approved one set of rules then another the fact Jesus may not be the same god (countless Christians put those passages differently thou I honestly don't care) So your drama is style not substance .

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Well there's an old saying- "There are no atheists in foxholes"..

Yup it's just that a saying . And an insulting one at that.

Several atheist organizations object to the phrase. The Military Association of Atheists & Freethinkers has adopted the catch-phrase "Atheists in Foxholes" to emphasize that the original statement is just an aphorism and not a fact. The over 200 members of this organization publicly display their military service in order to show that there are atheists in foxholes, and on ships, and in planes.[24] The religious convictions of current U.S. military personnel are similar to those of the general American population, though studies suggest that members of the military are slightly less religious.[25] Department of Defense (DoD) demographics show that "Atheist" is selected as a religious preference (0.55% or less than 1 percent of the total DoD force) more than non-Christian options such as Agnostic (0.12%), Hindu (0.07%), Buddhist (0.38%), Muslim (0.24%), and Jewish (0.33%).[26] James Morrow has been quoted as saying "'There are no atheists in foxholes' isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes," as the mental state, or decisions, of an extremely frightened and desperate person can hardly be imagined to be more rational than those of a person in a calm state.[27] Due to its opposition to the phrase, the Freedom From Religion Foundation has erected a monument to "Atheists in Foxholes".[28]

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[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Simpson_(mountaineer)]Joe Simpson, author of Touching the Void, addresses the issue in the film adaptation of his nearly fatal climb up the Siula Grande mountain. Referring to the moment when he lay at the bottom of a deep crevasse, dehydrated, alone, and with a broken leg, he states: '"I was totally convinced I was on my own, that no one was coming to get me. I was brought up as a devout Catholic. I'd long since stopped believing in God. I always wondered if things really hit the fan, whether I would, under pressure, turn round and say a few Hail Marys and say 'Get me out of here'. It never once occurred to me. It meant that I really don't believe and I really do think that when you die, you die, that's it, there's no afterlife."[23

Recent research on the relationship between death anxiety and religious belief have found that strong atheists and strong religious believers both share low levels of death anxiety, but that moderately religious and irreligious people experience higher levels of death anxiety.[29] A study by University of Oxford psychologists also suggests that faith in the explanatory and revealing power of science increases in the face of stress or anxiety.[30]

And a stretcher-bearer in WW1 told how when they went out to collect bodies from no mans land, they found that many wounded soldiers had crawled into shell craters and had died there clutching their bibles..

And how many of them were Atheists ?

[LastPoet]

Soldiers died clutching their bibles?  Soldiers went into battle carrying bibles.  They were likely religious anyway.

And "No atheists in foxholes", is a fabrication.

Huh yeah. Going into a battle, i best get my hands on a machine gun. Swords, Axes, pitchforks, fists and nails are also useful. But bibles? Dunno. It has some weight and if you hit someone in the head with one, might cause damage.

Wait a minute. What about making machine guns shooting bibles? Shit they be claiming to die by the word of their god.