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(August 24, 2017 at 8:18 am)Drich Wrote: Also the Israel did not consolidate into a religion until Moses received the law After the exodus (2nd dynasty 2650bc) But the sons of Abraham were still worshiping God well before which puts us at or before the beginning of the 2nd dynasty. 2800 to 3000, and if you consider that before abraham there was noah, Seth Adam we can go back to 5or 6000bc. If you consider the time adam spent in the Garden worship God you can go back all the way till the 3 or 4th day of creation 100 bazillion years ago. (or fill in the blank to whatever number "science" now uses.
Good one, but not quite ready for stand up.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
August 24, 2017 at 5:46 pm (This post was last modified: August 24, 2017 at 5:50 pm by Godscreated.)
(August 24, 2017 at 9:33 am)vorlon13 Wrote: From Jesuswordsonly.com, where you can read the rest of the article. And there is no shortage of internet sites pointing out the TRUE words of Jesus and all the manifest and vile heresies of Apostle Paul.
• Jesus Says Not To Eat Meat Sacrificed to Idols, But Paul Says It Is Ok
• Jesus Says The Law Continues, But Paul Says No
• Paul Says The Pharisees Followed The Law Rigorously, But Jesus Says They Were Lax About The Law
• Jesus Says Salvation Initiates And Continues By Repentance From Sin and Obedience Besides Faith; Paul Says This is Heresy
• Jesus Tells Apostles To Teach His Commands Given Prior to His Ascension While In The Flesh, But Paul Says Not To Do So
• Paul Says Elders Are Entitled To Pay for 'Preaching & Teaching,' But Jesus Says No
• Jesus Teaches There Are Only 12 Apostles Into Eternity, But Paul Adds Himself To The List As a Thirteenth
• Paul Exhorts Celibacy, But Jesus Clearly Says It is A Choice Not Within Everyone's Power
• Jesus Says There Is One Pastor and Teacher (Himself), But Paul Says There Are Many Pastors and Teachers
• Paul Says God Is The God of the Dead, But Jesus Says God Is Not The God of the Dead
• Paul Says God Does Not Live in Temples Made of Human Hands, But Jesus Says He Does
• Jesus says Nations Of The World Are Under Satan, But Paul Says Their Rulers Are Agents of God
• Jesus Teaches Rapture is Of Evil Ones First, But Paul Teaches The Opposite
• Jesus Says A Call Is Revocable, But Paul Says It Is Irrevocable
• Jesus Says Some Are Righteous, But Paul Says It Is Impossible
• Paul Excludes Eating With Sinners But Christ's Example We Are To Follow, and the Lost Sheep Parable, Is Contrary
• Paul Teaches We Are Eternally Secure, But Jesus Teaches Insecurity to a Sinning Believer
• Paul Teaches In Original Sin But Jesus Contradicts
• Jesus' Command About Calling Anyone Fool Is Violated by Paul
• Paul Denies Obedience Grants Any Righteousness Unto Life, But Jesus Says It Does
• Jesus Sends The Apostles to Baptize, But Paul Says Jesus Did Not Send Him to Baptize
• Jesus Says the Merciful Receive Mercy, But Paul Says Only Those God Chooses Arbitrarily Will Receive Mercy
• Paul Says Salvation Does Not Depend Upon Exertion, But Jesus Says It Does
• Paul Says He Could Be Justified of The Sin that Never Could be Justified under the Law given Moses (Blasphemy), but Jesus says to the contrary that it is The Unpardonable Sin.
• Paul Says Flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God, but Jesus in Flesh ascended to heaven, and promises to resurrect our bodies to heaven / New Jerusalem, giving us the same physical resurrection that Jesus had.
That's the biggest cherry picked list I've ever seen, some of what you said Jesus said is what Paul has said and Paul has agreed with all Christ taught, the sources you use are making you look real stupid, if I were you I would rely on my own search over such ineptness.
GC
(August 24, 2017 at 12:55 am)causal code Wrote: Yaweh is relatively very very young.
Mankind had invented many many many God concepts before Yaweh.
What makes Yaweh so special?
God created the universe and all it contains, man created those gods that are as dead as the flat 'possum laying in the road from a week ago.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(August 24, 2017 at 8:18 am)Drich Wrote: Also the Israel did not consolidate into a religion until Moses received the law After the exodus (2nd dynasty 2650bc) But the sons of Abraham were still worshiping God well before which puts us at or before the beginning of the 2nd dynasty. 2800 to 3000, and if you consider that before abraham there was noah, Seth Adam we can go back to 5or 6000bc. If you consider the time adam spent in the Garden worship God you can go back all the way till the 3 or 4th day of creation 100 bazillion years ago. (or fill in the blank to whatever number "science" now uses.
There was no moses...there was no exodus. It's all a fucking fairy tale you dumb ass.
Is it virgin birth? But Samson was also a virgin birth and we can do it for decades. An egg can easily be taken from a virgin, be united with a sperm in a test tube and be reinserted into the uterus without any physical contact being involved. Indeed, the parents need never have met. Where is the miracle? Not to mention that several figures in the Old Testament had births of an even more miraculous nature like Melchizedek who had no father, mother, or genealogy. Or Eve came from a rib. Or Isaac that came from a very old woman past her menstrual age.
Or is it the Resurrection? But how can that be of any real importance when so many people rose from the dead before Jesus? Elijah rose and lives somewhere in heaven, the widow of Nain's son rose from the dead, Jairus's daughter rose from the dead, Elisha raised the dead son of a Shunammite, Lazarus rose from the dead, and many others followed suit. And all of these people rose before Jesus. So by the time Jesus rose, rising from the dead was actually a rather common occurrence.
Or miracles? Well they are very fanciful and ridiculous. It is really hard not to observe that if people like Jesus, who apparently knew everything, failed to mention stuff like penicillin but instead gave warnings about Evil Eye and not washing your hands before eating.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(August 25, 2017 at 1:31 am)Tizheruk Wrote: 1.GC embarrasses himself again .
2. Nothing makes it special. Regardless of how angry they get when you point it out . There's nothing unique about it.
Stop the presses. Oh wait, this happens so often that they haven't been able to start back up since he joined.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.