Why are people so affraid of anarchy?

[The Industrial Atheist]

Oh, sorry, I haven't seen this other page.

In case of anarchy, organized crime syndicates would hold all the power and become de facto governments.

I have no idea why people say that government somehow prevents violence. Look at the human history. More power concentrated in fewer individuals always means more crime. There was so much crime during the communism and nazism. And in the Middle Ages, the knights were bossing everyone around, yet you couldn't safely walk the streets.

No government means that me, and permanently disabled people like me, die. So, yeah, thanks for that.

Why exactly? You think it's the politicians who have advanced the medical science? No, it's the scientists, and politicians just take credit for that.

A shit ton of medical research is done by colleges, which are funded by..to a large degree.. wait for it... the government. That doesn't stop corporations from price gauging you for the drugs your money paid to research.

[Catholic_Lady]

Ah yes, "capitalism."

From a guy who is constantly and consistently negative, I'd expect as much.

I don't understand all the hate against capitalism that seems to be so popular right now. Doesn't capitalism just mean you work for your money? 

(this is a genuine question, btw... I don't know much about this sort of thing)

[Jackalope]

I don't understand all the hate against capitalism that seems to be so popular right now. Doesn't capitalism just mean you work for your money? 

No, not really. Capitalism describes a system where industry and trade are run solely by private entities for profit. Great system if you happen to have money, pretty shitty if you don't. Or you have extravagant needs, like healthcare (which IMO, should not be a for-profit enterprise).

[Catholic_Lady]

I don't understand all the hate against capitalism that seems to be so popular right now. Doesn't capitalism just mean you work for your money? 

No, not really.  Capitalism describes a system where industry and trade are run solely by private entities for profit.  

"Solely by private entities" you mean by individual people instead of by the government?

[Anomalocaris]

From a guy who is constantly and consistently negative, I'd expect as much.

I don't understand all the hate against capitalism that seems to be so popular right now. Doesn't capitalism just mean you work for your money? 

(this is a genuine question, btw... I don't know much about this sort of thing)

No, in most places where money is used, most people work for money, whether it is under socialism, communism.  That's why the people in the are motivated to produce things and actually has the means to get necessicities they don't produce with their own hands.

Capitalism means the fundamental infrastructure required to actually produce and distributed, called capital,  like factories and trucks, are to a large extent privately owned and can be bought and sold privately like the products they produce and distribute.

[brewer]

No, not really.  Capitalism describes a system where industry and trade are run solely by private entities for profit.  Great system if you happen to have money, pretty shitty if you don't.  Or you have extravagant needs, like healthcare (which IMO, should not be a for-profit enterprise).

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In a perfect world that would be great. But in our society I don't see much medical advancement based on altruism alone.

[Catholic_Lady]

I don't understand all the hate against capitalism that seems to be so popular right now. Doesn't capitalism just mean you work for your money? 

(this is a genuine question, btw... I don't know much about this sort of thing)

No, in most places where money is used, most people work for money, whether it is under socialism, communism.  That's why the people in the are motivated to produce things and actually has the means to get necessicities they don't produce with their own hands.

Capitalism means the fundamental infrastructure required to actually produce and distributed, called capital,  like factories and trucks, are to a large extent privately owned and can be bought and sold privately like the products they produce and distribute.

So owning your own business?

[Anomalocaris]

No, in most places where money is used, most people work for money, whether it is under socialism, communism.  That's why the people in the are motivated to produce things and actually has the means to get necessicities they don't produce with their own hands.

Capitalism means the fundamental infrastructure required to actually produce and distributed, called capital,  like factories and trucks, are to a large extent privately owned and can be bought and sold privately like the products they produce and distribute.

So owning your own business?

Not just own your own business, but can buy and sell your business.

That is the broad outline. The details can get very murky, because the concept of ownership can entail dramatically different things between one society to another, even just in the westernized world, much less the rest of the world.

[brewer]

How long until Python shows up in this thread? The anticipation is killing me.

[Catholic_Lady]

So owning your own business?

Not just own your own business, but can buy and sell your business.

If you own your own business, what's wrong with being able to sell it? What's wrong with being able to buy a business from someone else who is selling it to you? Seems like a freedom thing, unless I'm missing something.