This Has to Stop

[emjay]

And also beepete, welcome to the wonderful world of smug and condescending Christians, of which Steve is the greatest example. Neo is proud of and thinks he holds the title, but he's a mere amateur in comparison.

[KevinM1]

And also beepete, welcome to the wonderful world of smug and condescending Christians, of which Steve is the greatest example. Neo is proud of and thinks he holds the title, but he's a mere amateur in comparison.

Man, what? Drich is right there

[Silver]

Man, what?  Drich is right there

I found Drich, under a different username, on the forum in which I was posting these past few months. I immediately knew it was him; he just has that certain recognizable style.

[emjay]

And also beepete, welcome to the wonderful world of smug and condescending Christians, of which Steve is the greatest example. Neo is proud of and thinks he holds the title, but he's a mere amateur in comparison.

Man, what?  Drich is right there

Nah, my vote's for Steve.

[Crossless2.0]

It's his cognitive dissonance protecting him.  He thinks if he can fool his mind into believing there are no logical objections that we are wrong and he remains correct.

And yet, deep down he knows his reasoning is flawed.  Otherwise, he wouldn't have spent the last several years (literally) rehashing the same argument in slightly different ways.

I see him as a guy who amazes his IRL compatriots, because he is a somewhat decent writer and definitely has conviction.  But it's mostly just regurgitations of WLC and not much else.

And true to the WLC playbook, the name of the game now isn't to persuade that Christianity is true but to use every available trick up the sophist's sleeve to argue that one isn't irrational to believe clearly absurd propositions. For better or for worse, the Steves of the world are all that remain of a once proud intellectual tradition.

[Catholic_Lady]

To be fair, what Astonished says to/about theists is much worse, more smug, and more condescending than what Steve II said on his post...

[JackRussell]

In online forums people can be dicks.

We are all here because we think our ideas are important.

I know I can come across as more aggressive than I am in real life.
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So fuck you all and i hate everyone

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In online forums people can be dicks.

We are all here because we think our ideas are important.

I know I can come across as more aggressive than I am in real life.
\
So fuck you all and i hate everyone

Sorry, I'm English

[emjay]

To be fair, what Astonished says to/about theists is much worse, more smug, and more condescending than what Steve II said on his post...

Mine was just a general comment really, but with his post reminding me of him at his best... brought on by the fact that this thread has made me miserable and angry, and I've lost a friend through it (ie you)... so nothing to lose really by getting it all out of my system. Nothing much else to say though... I think I've got most of my ire out of my system.

[beepete]

Hating other people that hold a different view will probably only confirm prejudices on both sides. I'm a Christian and for years refused to look at opposing views. Recently I have started watching videos by Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and a few others and it has been both eye-opening and challenging (in a positive sense). So far I have not seen them attacking the holders of certain beliefs but rather the beliefs themselves. Clearly, these men have a superior intellect to mine - but they don't attack or hate others for not being as clever as they so obviously are. Hating religious people will probably only confirm them in their belief system.

Beepete--welcome to the warm and fuzzy AF where atheist win converts because they foster respectful discourse and win people on the merits of their points.

I too came here to look for the opposing viewpoint to Christianity. I wanted to make sure there were no unanswered objections. It turns out, there are none. There is nothing new in any modern argument against Christianity that has not been addressed before--sometimes addressed millennium ago. Most atheists here argue against a long series of straw men--caricatures of Christianity that don't exist in the real world. 

I'm curious. What Harris/Hitchens argument do you think is their most succ

[JackRussell]

I'm more interested in where you can show they fail.

I want to see the god proof that should be so obvious for the ultimate being.

Should be so easy for him, why am I even doubting.

God bless