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This Has to Stop
RE: This Has to Stop
Quote:..i cannot understand why he isn't universally condemned by theists and atheists alike.
Because few care enough about his opinion
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: CL, of course there is a double standard. Understandably.  We are Christians posting on a forum  tailored  mostly to atheists. Even still, people like Astonished...i cannot understand why he isn't universally condemned by theists and atheists alike.

To be fair a few people did condemn him a little bit. But yeah, nothing like what Steve and you get for much less.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: This Has to Stop
Quote:To be fair a few people did condemn him a little bit. But yeah, nothing like what Steve and you get for much less.
Lol nope equal
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 4:05 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:To be fair a few people did condemn him a little bit. But yeah, nothing like what Steve and you get for much less.
Lol nope equal

I imagine if a theist had come in here and started a thread saying he hated all atheists and accusing atheists of child abuse for conveying atheism to their children and calling all of you "fucked up in the head", it would have been met with quite a bit more outrage....
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 9:55 am)Astonished Wrote:
(September 26, 2017 at 2:30 am)beepete Wrote:
Moderator Notice
Link removed for violation of 30/30 rule

You can link videos so the video actually shows up in the post rather than linking to it. Also it would be polite to at least describe what it is you're substituting for your own words.

Rules are rules (just ask Moses - seems we all need them and I was unaware of the link violation). It was a small clip by Carl Sagan on religion, science and the cosmos in general. It was not a substitution for my own words - Carl Sagan was far too articulate and clever for that. I had started to form the opinion (incorrectly it now seems) that I would discover people of his intellectual caliber and rationality on this forum.Perhaps they are here somewhere, but I'm yet to find him. Thanks for the tip on being polite.
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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 12:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I honestly don't understand the hate that Steve is getting. You may not agree with his beliefs, but he doesn't strike me as someone who has been nasty to others here.

Well when someone constantly lies, repeats the same debunked crap, and arrogantly refuses to provide sources or evidence when challenged, I'd call that pretty asshole-ish. It hides behind that smug veneer of humility when it's anything but.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: This Has to Stop
Meh, deleted. Don't want to talk with this person.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 4:54 pm)beepete Wrote:
(September 26, 2017 at 9:55 am)Astonished Wrote: You can link videos so the video actually shows up in the post rather than linking to it. Also it would be polite to at least describe what it is you're substituting for your own words.

Rules are rules (just ask Moses - seems we all need them and I was unaware of the link violation). It was a small clip by Carl Sagan on religion, science and the cosmos in general. It was not a substitution for my own words - Carl Sagan was far too articulate and clever for that. I had started to form the opinion (incorrectly it now seems) that I would discover people of his intellectual caliber and rationality on this forum.Perhaps they are here somewhere, but I'm yet to find him. Thanks for the tip on being polite.

And being a condescending little prick, too. You're a chip off the ol' Yahweh block, fuckstick. I knew you had it in you. Way to show us you don't have the moral high ground, little boy.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 4:54 pm)beepete Wrote:
(September 26, 2017 at 9:55 am)Astonished Wrote: You can link videos so the video actually shows up in the post rather than linking to it. Also it would be polite to at least describe what it is you're substituting for your own words.

Rules are rules (just ask Moses - seems we all need them and I was unaware of the link violation). It was a small clip by Carl Sagan on religion, science and the cosmos in general. It was not a substitution for my own words - Carl Sagan was far too articulate and clever for that. I had started to form the opinion (incorrectly it now seems) that I would discover people of his intellectual caliber and rationality on this forum.Perhaps they are here somewhere, but I'm yet to find him. Thanks for the tip on being polite.

What do you want to discuss? You mentioned your problems with hell, I mentioned my problems with hell, Steve opined on my problems with hell (which, while perhaps making sense to those in Christianity only really serve to highlight more problems with the mechanics behind the entire endeavor), and then you posted a video which was, apparently, unrelated.

Instead of lamenting that we're a bunch of idiots, maybe meet us halfway and engage us?
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RE: This Has to Stop
(September 26, 2017 at 5:36 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: ... Instead of lamenting that we're a bunch of idiots, maybe meet us halfway and engage us?

Maybe it's just part of apologist's training... that might explain its prevalence.
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