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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 26, 2017 at 8:15 pm
(September 26, 2017 at 8:12 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: CL, I'm curious as to why you think failing to protect your child against deadly, but preventable diseases does NOT constitute neglect. I'm not being snarky; I really want to understand how you're reasoning through this. Is it because you don't think anyone is actually going to get sick?
She's erring on the uninformed minority side that thinks vaccinations cause autism in children.
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 26, 2017 at 8:37 pm
(September 26, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: (September 26, 2017 at 8:12 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: CL, I'm curious as to why you think failing to protect your child against deadly, but preventable diseases does NOT constitute neglect. I'm not being snarky; I really want to understand how you're reasoning through this. Is it because you don't think anyone is actually going to get sick?
She's erring on the uninformed minority side that thinks vaccinations cause autism in children.
Actually, she seems to be more erring on the libertarian side that thinks forcing people to do something is wrong even if it makes sense. At least she isn't erring on the side that forcing people do something is wrong especially if it makes sense.
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 26, 2017 at 9:08 pm
We should all have the freedom to drink and drive. I pay car and street taxes. As long as I don't run into anything who am I hurting?
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September 26, 2017 at 9:22 pm
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(September 26, 2017 at 9:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: We should all have the freedom to drink and drive. I pay car and street taxes. As long as I don't run into anything who am I hurting?
Honestly, the shock value of drinking and driving sort of wears off when it turns out there's people who cook meth while driving. And yes, every word of that last clause links to a story of a different incident of the same type of bone-headed crime.
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 27, 2017 at 12:18 am
(September 26, 2017 at 9:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: We should all have the freedom to drink and drive. I pay car and street taxes. As long as I don't run into anything who am I hurting?
I know, right? If I go out in public and wave a gun around, it's all good so long as no one gets shot, amirite?
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 27, 2017 at 4:42 am
(September 26, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: (September 26, 2017 at 8:12 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: CL, I'm curious as to why you think failing to protect your child against deadly, but preventable diseases does NOT constitute neglect. I'm not being snarky; I really want to understand how you're reasoning through this. Is it because you don't think anyone is actually going to get sick?
She's erring on the uninformed minority side that thinks vaccinations cause autism in children.
No I dont. Did you miss the numerous posts I have to keep making that state I think it's right to vaccinate and don't agree with the anti vax movement?
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 27, 2017 at 7:42 am
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(September 25, 2017 at 10:04 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (September 25, 2017 at 9:55 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: LOL. That's city girl talk. I would have loved to have seen how that would work in the 1 room school house i was taught in . Or the fact we all had to shower in the same room .
Ye had showers at school? Lucky bastard.
(September 26, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (September 26, 2017 at 10:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I just don't think not vaccinating falls under child neglect. I mean, child neglect is a form of abuse and is a criminal act.
If you don't vaccinate, and your kid gets a communicable disease and dies, or passes it on to an immunocompromised person, and they die...yes, someone be criminally culpable.
And the other, bigger, problem with low vaccination levels is that it allows strains of the bacteria/virus which causes the disease to develop which are resistant to the vaccination. Meaning that even if you're a competent paren and get your kids vaccinated some anti-vaxxer fucktard could have already screwed it up for you.
It should be a requirement for to get your secondary school qualifications, you should have to produce vaccination records, or a genuine medical reason why not.
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 27, 2017 at 8:14 am
(September 27, 2017 at 4:42 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No I dont. Did you miss the numerous posts I have to keep making that state I think it's right to vaccinate and don't agree with the anti vax movement?
I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 27, 2017 at 3:35 pm
Quote:Ye had showers at school? Lucky bastard.
If by shower you mean the cement shack without internal plumbing . Where icy water from the river was pumped through a fire hoses . Then sprayed over us . Then yes we had a shower . The only one in town as white horse had no plumbing system when i was a kid .
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RE: Vaccination exemption in CA, personal down, medical up
September 27, 2017 at 4:21 pm
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(September 27, 2017 at 3:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Ye had showers at school? Lucky bastard.
If by shower you mean the cement shack without internal plumbing . Where icy water from the river was pumped through a fire hoses . Then sprayed over us . Then yes we had a shower . The only one in town as white horse had no plumbing system when i was a kid .
Oh god the shrinkage!!!!
Aye, but you didn't have to work at mill for tuppence a year!
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