45 advocates forced ritual in NFL...

[Thumpalumpacus]

Why thank you, Brian. I appreciate the invite and the warm welcome. 

Just as those millionaire NFL mother fuckers can exercise their rights to dishonor the National Anthem just to protest one person, namely the president, I have equal rights to be critical of their actions as does all those fans who booed them. If Min and company find it so bad in this country there's no law holding them here. Anyone who hates it here that much is free to leave whenever they choose. Just as you have the right to voice your criticisms of this country I have the right to voice my support for it.

Have you noticed that no one who disagrees with you is telling you to GTFO? That speaks volumes, kid.

[Silver]

Why thank you, Brian. I appreciate the invite and the warm welcome. 

Just as those millionaire NFL mother fuckers can exercise their rights to dishonor the National Anthem just to protest one person, namely the president, I have equal rights to be critical of their actions as does all those fans who booed them. If Min and company find it so bad in this country there's no law holding them here. Anyone who hates it here that much is free to leave whenever they choose. Just as you have the right to voice your criticisms of this country I have the right to voice my support for it.

No is stating you are not entitled to your first amendment right, but neither does anyone have to agree with the shit that results from your right to free speech.

[Brian37]

That goes for anyone. Yea, even A Theist is welcome here. 

Why thank you, Brian. I appreciate the invite and the warm welcome. 

Just as those millionaire NFL mother fuckers can exercise their rights to dishonor the National Anthem just to protest one person, namely the president, I have equal rights to be critical of their actions as does all those fans who booed them. If Min and company find it so bad in this country there's no law holding them here. Anyone who hates it here that much is free to leave whenever they choose. Just as you have the right to voice your criticisms of this country I have the right to voice my support for it.

No no no, don't falsely use the word "millionaire" when you have no problem supporting a BILLIONAIRE like Trump.

First off asshole, the average NFL player is not a starter, most of the leagues players are 2nd or third string living on a base salary. SECONDLY ASSHOLE even Trump supporter Brady and billionaire Trump supporter Jerry Jones were against his divisive comments.

This is not about wealth, I should say it should not be.

I am sorry it bothers you that blacks are pointing out inequality, but they are NOT spoiled rich kids moron. 

Sorry crybaby, not getting everything you want all the time is not oppressing you. 

FYI dickfuck, I am not against wealth, but between millionaires and billionaires what you should really focus on are the owners blackmailing tax payers and threatening to leave to bilk the city for stadiums they could pay for themselves. 

Blacks being rich does not make them crybabies. Blacks being rich does not mean they are obligated to shut up. Rich black sports stars see what you are not seeing. They are seeing what this white fan, me who is not rich, sees and agrees with. 

FUCK YOU for implying that it is wrong to be a millionaire. It is not wrong to be rich, it is wrong to be rich and then ignore the society you use for labor, and ignore the society you make money off of.

Now again, you are not going to have it both ways asshole. If you value an individual's ability to move up the economic ladder which is what a millionaire OR billionaire are, then you don't get to cherry pick what they do.

Now, if you agree with a free market, then the NFL and the players, the black players and even the white players like Brady and their ability to make a living, then you cannot bitch about the owners agreeing with them, the owners are even richer than the players.

I am so fucking sick of assholes like you thinking billionaires like Trump are the victims. 

45 said, "this isn't about race", after a campaign of vilifying multiple groups. 

The truth is you are not against millionaires, the truth is you hate having to face a reality. Now ask me if I give a fuck. I support their right to be rich AND I support their right to point out, that others from communities they rose from, are not so lucky.

Blacks are not all rich pro athletes. Blacks do get hurt worse by our economy and justice system. They are not trying to call you a second class citizen asshole. I am sorry you are too fucking ignorant to see that, but that is your baggage, not theirs.

"Blacks can be millionaires so they should quit bitching" is not a fucking argument. 

And asshole, white millionaire players and white billionaires all stood in solidarity this weekend so this shit about making it about wealth is just that BULLSHIT. The truth is you are justifying your own prejudice because the thought of blacks being equal to you frightens you. TOO FUCKING BAD.

Only you fucking stupidly think this is about "oppress whitey".

[A Theist]

Why thank you, Brian. I appreciate the invite and the warm welcome. 

Just as those millionaire NFL mother fuckers can exercise their rights to dishonor the National Anthem just to protest one person, namely the president, I have equal rights to be critical of their actions as does all those fans who booed them. If Min and company find it so bad in this country there's no law holding them here. Anyone who hates it here that much is free to leave whenever they choose. Just as you have the right to voice your criticisms of this country I have the right to voice my support for it.

Have you noticed that no one who disagrees with you is telling you to GTFO? That speaks volumes, kid.

Not quite, youngster. I'm just pointing out that in this country there's no law forcing anyone to stay here. If there's any who hates it here that much and who feels so oppressed they have the freedom in this nation to leave anytime they choose.

[Silver]

Not quite, youngster. I'm just pointing out that in this country there's no law forcing anyone to stay here. If there's any who hates it here that much and who feels so oppressed they have the freedom in this nation to leave anytime they choose.

Just as you hated it when Obama was president, we should have informed you to leave the country as well?

[A Theist]

Why thank you, Brian. I appreciate the invite and the warm welcome. 

Just as those millionaire NFL mother fuckers can exercise their rights to dishonor the National Anthem just to protest one person, namely the president, I have equal rights to be critical of their actions as does all those fans who booed them. If Min and company find it so bad in this country there's no law holding them here. Anyone who hates it here that much is free to leave whenever they choose. Just as you have the right to voice your criticisms of this country I have the right to voice my support for it.

No is stating you are not entitled to your first amendment right, but neither does anyone have to agree with the shit that results from your right to free speech.

We have an understanding, then. We have the equal right to disagree with each other. You have the right to voice your criticism of this country and I have the right to voice my support for it.

[Brian37]

Have you noticed that no one who disagrees with you is telling you to GTFO? That speaks volumes, kid.

Not quite, youngster. I'm just pointing out that in this country there's no law forcing anyone to stay here. If there's any who hates it here that much and who feels so oppressed they have the freedom in this nation to leave anytime they choose.

No asshole, I could say the same to you. You don't like black millionaires pointing out that other blacks are not as lucky as they are. You don't like that white millionaire players and white billionaires agree with those black millionaires. THEN nobody is forcing you to stay here either.

I am not demanding you to leave. Best I have ever said is visit more oppressive parts of the world, then come back and bitch.

You are not being oppressed because of black millionaires pointing out that the communities they rise out of have problems. Martin Luther King was not rich or an athlete but I am damned sure glad he fought to end segregation.

Instead of being a fucking crybaby, try listening to what the players are saying because none if it is about persecuting white people. 

Nobody is out to get you jackass. Grow the fuck up.

[A Theist]

Not quite, youngster. I'm just pointing out that in this country there's no law forcing anyone to stay here. If there's any who hates it here that much and who feels so oppressed they have the freedom in this nation to leave anytime they choose.

Just as you hated it when Obama was president, we should have informed you to leave the country as well?

I never hated this country. I always voiced my support for it, even when he was president.

[Silver]

I never hated this country. I always voiced my support for it, even when he was president.

Then you agree that we can voice our support for the country, while voicing our qualms with and dislike for Trump?

[Clueless Morgan]

I'm pretty sure there's a rule in the NBA stating that players must stand for the anthem. Is it really forced though? Nobody is forcing these millionaires to make millions playing a game. They can go and do otherwise if they so choose. I understand that playing the anthem is mostly just an advertisement for the military, and I'd like it to be removed from all games other than the Olympics, but that's not happening anytime soon.

[my bolding]

I know the thread has moved waaaay past this but I just want to whole heartedly agree with this.  Do the Dallas Cowboys have to be reminded at every game which country they are playing for? No, because all the teams are playing for the same country.  In international sports where the national anthem actually denotes a difference between the players/teams it's at appropriate, or at least arguably so.

Plus, personal pet peeve arriving, fans have weird and stupid ways rituals during the national anthem anyway.  Like when soccer fans twirl their scarves in the air like stupid little helicopters during the anthem or flick them at the ends of lines or verses.  I don't think they should stop on my account because it annoys the piss out of me, but I also think there's some amount of hypocrisy in the Take A Knee controversy when people lose their shit over a guy who goes to a knee during the anthem and otherwise doesn't interrupt but say nothing when thousands of people flip and twirl a scarf during the same song which can be seen as making light of what the song represents.

Man, I must be annoyed this morning, second rant and it's only 7:10.