Seeds: Rebellion against the clergy - part 1.

[Astreja]

I don't worship anything mate.

Then you value nothing.

Please learn the difference, MK.  One can easily value things without worshipping them.

[LastPoet]

This is a perfect example of religion fucking up peoples lives: a person with mental problems feels like not having an illness feeling reinforced by the religious fantasy, avoiding proper treatment. And co religionists dismiss it as the person being just a fierce believer.

It is sad, really.

[WinterHold]

This is a perfect example of religion fucking up peoples lives: a person with mental problems feels like not having an illness feeling reinforced by the religious fantasy, avoiding proper treatment. And co religionists dismiss it as the person being just a fierce believer.

It is sad, really.

Manipulating others is so easy if you think about it.

First of all; see what the society you're gonna target cares about, and play along.
Second; raise your propaganda or stream of thoughts to flow in the direction you already played upon in the first step
Third; if you meet a feminist tell them God is a woman; if you meet an atheist tell them that you were an atheist yourself...etc. In other words; give everybody what they want hear.
Fourth: take cover behind a thick wall like mental disability. If the criticism got hot, just say "I yield !" and raise the mental illness white flag

That way; you are relatively safe from criticism, at the same time you will get special treatment, you can say whatever you like and blame it on the  argument that "but...I'm crazy !".

Dismissing doesn't come from difference in faith. It comes from fishy behaviors. Especially when you have direct proof that lying is a type of worship in the religion of your foe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya#Shia_Islam_view

[drfuzzy]

Freedom lies in acquiring willpower to enable real willful choices, and willpower, goodness, love, perception, proofs, evidence, they go together dear and they go together because of God.

You were doing pretty well there until you invoked the magic purple unicorn of fantasy.  Absolutely nothing in that statement requires or was created by any type of deity.