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But how good are we really??
#51
RE: But how good are we really??
Perhaps because doing so is to lose sight of the object of morality in the first place..making subsequent "moral" judgements inherently suspect? You can't really know (or reasonably expect) a god pleaser to be operating on any shared moral framework.

That makes them the perpetual other, unpredictable. One day they might help you hand out bowls of soup..and the next they're purging heretics by fire. 9am pre-k fundraising, 10am gaybashing, and a little light slut shaming before a noon-time break.
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#52
RE: But how good are we really??
Probably has something to do with morality being subjective, yadda yadda.

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#53
RE: But how good are we really??
I'm very conscientious. It does not allow me to do bad things. Is this a manifestation of kindness?
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#54
RE: But how good are we really??
I am motivated almost purely by my own self-interests, and practically speaking, my behavior is more or less par for the course with average people.

I can't decide if that's a testament to how well society has been designed to funnel us down a certain behavioral path, or if people are just good at selling themselves to themselves. Meaning, it's easy to talk themselves into the idea they are a good person, even though that status has somehow come with little to no personal cost.
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