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New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 6, 2017 at 10:17 am)Cyberman Wrote: All the roads on my map are dead ends.

don't give up i'm sure one of them it's not a dead end but a road to your beautiful life Wink

ps. probably you allowed others to make corrections on your map... ;P
no one else wants for you as well as you do .. for yourself
"Alone is what I have. Alone protects me." 
“I may be on the side of the angels but don’t think for one second that I am one of them.”
“The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existence. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery each day."
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
I have been forced to take a road leading away from my beautiful life, and there's no u-turns. Long story.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 6, 2017 at 10:33 am)Cyberman Wrote: I have been forced to take a road leading away from my beautiful life, and there's no u-turns. Long story.
you have been forced? i don't like it.... but i still think everything is possible ... how my best friend says.. never say never and never say always Wink
and btw i like long stories.... i'm here and i can listen... i'm a good listener :Smile
"Alone is what I have. Alone protects me." 
“I may be on the side of the angels but don’t think for one second that I am one of them.”
“The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existence. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery each day."
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
All I know for sure is that this thread is borking my GPS and God does not appear to care. And I now have no clue what planet I am on.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 6, 2017 at 10:45 am)KittyAnn Wrote:
(November 6, 2017 at 10:33 am)Cyberman Wrote: I have been forced to take a road leading away from my beautiful life, and there's no u-turns. Long story.
you have been forced? i don't like it.... but i still think everything is possible ... how my best friend says.. never say never and never say always Wink
and btw i like long stories.... i'm here and i can listen... i'm a good listener :Smile

It's not something I want to go into at the moment, if it's okay. I've written about it at length many times and I don't want to make everyone roll their eyes.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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This life is a test. It is only a test. If it had been a real life, there would have been instructions on where to go and what to do.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 6, 2017 at 11:19 am)Cyberman Wrote:
(November 6, 2017 at 10:45 am)KittyAnn Wrote: you have been forced? i don't like it.... but i still think everything is possible ... how my best friend says.. never say never and never say always Wink
and btw i like long stories.... i'm here and i can listen... i'm a good listener :Smile

It's not something I want to go into at the moment, if it's okay. I've written about it at length many times and I don't want to make everyone roll their eyes.

Of course I didn't mean ...to write about it on AF ... and of course I understand that you don't want to go back to it ... I have the same..
Anyway i wish you luck and beautiful life! Smile

(November 6, 2017 at 10:52 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: All I know for sure is that this thread is borking my GPS and God does not appear to care. And I now have no clue what planet I am on.


.....you don't have to believe in God or another divine unit, to believe in your own abilities and happiness..
Your map is in your left pocket, take it out, stretch it out and look at it....smile and think what beautiful life is before you...

 Earth to Homer
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Ps. or better give your GPS for repair
"Alone is what I have. Alone protects me." 
“I may be on the side of the angels but don’t think for one second that I am one of them.”
“The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existence. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery each day."
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 5, 2017 at 3:50 am)Odoital77 Wrote: A stretch?  Not at all.  If there is no God, then there is no moral accountability for our actions...

Are you such a shallow person that you don't know the difference between right and wrong, you need to be advised every step of the way by a voice in your head? Is this what you're saying?
Are you telling me your belief in god is the only thing preventing you from killing people and stealing things? If your answer is no; then you've just undermined your own argument. If your answer is yes; then please please keep on believing. I hope you never lose your faith.

Edit: Ninja'd, should have read the whole thread.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 3, 2017 at 12:47 am)Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: So, I've been denying my atheism for years, but man, I just can't do it anymore. That said, there's a reason I've been avoiding it. I'm terrified right now. I don't get how anyone's supposed to be happy like this.

I feel like...all I can do is cope with life now. I don't see what there is to look forward to, or to take reassurance in. Everything just seems empty.

(Why yes, I'm on meds and seeing a counselor. Doesn't help much.)

Children won't enjoy adult responsibilities, just as adults take little satisfaction in childish games.

But ask yourself this, do you think you will do better in the long run if children gets to pretend to be adults while preventing adults from fulfilling real adult responsibilities?
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RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
(November 3, 2017 at 12:47 am)Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: So, I've been denying my atheism for years, but man, I just can't do it anymore. That said, there's a reason I've been avoiding it. I'm terrified right now. I don't get how anyone's supposed to be happy like this.

I feel like...all I can do is cope with life now. I don't see what there is to look forward to, or to take reassurance in. Everything just seems empty.

(Why yes, I'm on meds and seeing a counselor. Doesn't help much.)

The universe is so much more awesome, beautiful, amazing without deities! When I became deconverted, there was a brief period of existential angst, but once I figured out that I got rid a bunch of false beliefs, and am now able to accept anything that is best supported by evidence, my entire world became brighter.

See if you can find atheist and freethinker groups in your area, so you don't feel to alone with your disbelief. Support groups are very helpful.

Not sure if you heard about this organization, but it also may be helpful -

https://www.seculartherapy.org/

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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