Another mass shooting.....

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Oh my gosh!!!

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Who's the bastard??

I mean, a church, really? With innocent families and children just coming together to pray??? Coward!

According to the fairy tale Yeshua demands that a certain number of believers must be killed before he returns.  Don't you want him to return?  Gotta reach that magic number for it to happen.  Revelation 6:9-11.

[Edwardo Piet]

Wrong context. Not appropriate on this thread. IMO.

[Catholic_Lady]

Yeah mocking a strawman of Christianity on a thread about Christian people getting slaughtered while at church isn't psychopathic and completely disgusting at all...

But unfortunately I don't expect anything better from that poster.

[Minimalist]

And right on cue... one of the republicunt retards crawls out from the woodwork to say:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/texas-a...d-weapons/

Texas Attorney General: The way to stop mass shootings is for more people to carry concealed weapons

If "more guns" made us safer this would be the safest country on earth, you douchebag.

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That didn't take long.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/texas-c...and-child/

Texas church shooter Devin Kelley’s court martial was for violence against his wife and child

Texas church shooter Devin Patrick Kelley was discharged from the Air Force over accusations of domestic violence against his wife and child. Kelley falls in with a pattern noted by researchers who say that the overwhelming majority of mass shooters and terrorist attackers have a history of violence and threats against women.

Matt Pearce of reported Sunday night that Kelley’s 2014 Bad Conduct Discharge took place after his arrest, a trial by a court martial and a year in military prison for assaulting his wife and their child.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

My heart does fall for the dead.
But I must say: where is the hypocrite terrorist accusation that so many throw when the killer is brown?
Isn't this dog a terrorist? or is he treated better just because he's a non-Muslim?

This is terrorism, carried out of inferiority complexes for the sake of satisfying sick, who knows what brain farts; mad thoughts; just like brown killers.
Why isn't this labeled as a terrorist attack?
Just why?

Killers like this guy are promoted in the U.S army if they join, and considered heroes when they kill brown Muslim people.
The poor Christian dead, are just like the Vegas dead; like brown dead: victims of terrorism.

Gun manufacturers are the terrorists. Without these guns, these huge casualties won't happen. The Sauds won't have bombs to bomb; the Vegas shooter won't have ammo to load.

Shooting up a church is a federal felony, so it's like terrorism.

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I can't quantify these things. 27 dead people is horrific. 4 dead people is awful enough. 1 person shot dead brutally is awful enough. None of this should ever happen, but it does, because this is the kind of world we live in, depressingly.

Actually, it is the kind of country we live in. Much of the world figured this out a long time ago.

This is America where people have used violence to settle disagreements since 1620.  It's our culture and we love it.  Right now our President is threatening to nuke North Korea unless it kisses his ass.

[WinterHold]

My heart does fall for the dead.
But I must say: where is the hypocrite terrorist accusation that so many throw when the killer is brown?
Isn't this dog a terrorist? or is he treated better just because he's a non-Muslim?

This is terrorism, carried out of inferiority complexes for the sake of satisfying sick, who knows what brain farts; mad thoughts; just like brown killers.
Why isn't this labeled as a terrorist attack?
Just why?

Killers like this guy are promoted in the U.S army if they join, and considered heroes when they kill brown Muslim people.
The poor Christian dead, are just like the Vegas dead; like brown dead: victims of terrorism.

Gun manufacturers are the terrorists. Without these guns, these huge casualties won't happen. The Sauds won't have bombs to bomb; the Vegas shooter won't have ammo to load.

Atlass, don't lump everyone here into the same camp.

Many of us have for a long time pointed out that the VAST MAJORITY of mass shooters in America are NOT Muslim.

We constantly point that out when these things happen. 

But lets be fair here. It isn't like the middle east doesn't have it's own problems, and it isn't like they don't have a MINORITY of individuals that try to spread Koran justified violence outside the middle east, they do.

I don't think Christians or Muslims or Jews as laypeople, understand that the global weapons industry and war are profitable. I do think that greedy people in all camps see violence and war and weapons as a way to make money. Use political, economic and religious ideology as a weapon, and you can pit humans against each other and make money off of it.

The west got to where it is now after shedding of blood that was enough to clear whole continents off their native people. Just yesterday, it also caused a world war (two actually) that killed millions. I just point to imagine: how would it look like if the west was Islamic instead? I imagine a very different media, a very different views, a very different headlines, a very different "standard" for terrorism.

I'm not putting you in the same basket; Brian. But bullets are not just made of lead: the majority of ammo is made of words.
When a Muslim kills, the bias and despise show in the structure of the headlines, they look so different than this one. So so different.

I respect the dead. But this hurts so bad, because the bias in coverage just bleeds the heart.

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Write terrorist in google images.



This is what you get.
A terrorist is a brown man with a suicide vest, AK-47 and a Quran. This is the legacy of the war on terror propaganda, and what the world sees.

There is no blonde terrorists. There is no westerner terrorists.

Please don't ignore my last post.

Yes white Europeans and white Americans CAN BE TERRORISTS AS WELL. 

Google, Dillon Roof, Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh. 

Nobody should be saying "Only Muslims do it". But between the east and west, the west is far more open as far s rights. I am NOT proud of the fact that our right wing wants to become a Christian theocracy here.

I hate Trump and I hate our religious right wing too. But that still would not justify either's side of religiously justified violence.

You are a good guy Brian.
But the propaganda always seems to win no matter what. Governments and businessmen drop the bombs already in Iraq and Afghanistan, and support hordes of criminals with the same arms America is bleeding because.
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There is no westerner terrorists.

Timothy McVeigh:


Fuck off, Atlas.

3 Times in the last decade; Americans by a majority chose (willingly) Bush and Trump,
So please, take a plate, poop in it, eat it, repeat.

Just bite, chew, swallow. Shit tastes good, not my cup of poop but hey.


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Atlas, you're looking for issues where there aren't any. A ton of innocent people and children just died. This isn't really the time to be trying to make yourself a victim.

Seriously, CL?

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http://www.bestgore.com/torture/american...dered-men/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...war_crimes

Human Rights Watch claimed in 2005 that the principle of "command responsibility" could make high-ranking officials within the Bush administration guilty of the numerous war crimes committed during the War on Terror, either with their knowledge or by persons under their control.[60]

I should ignore Human Rights Watch and believe you instead; right? and find a bomb burning me to crisp next day because a redneck wanted to increase his wealth.

No; the people who killed these Christians, are the same rednecks who manufactured weapons and caused the invasion of Iraq, I'm not victimizing myself, others do that but not me; I am spot on and what I say is so clear:

When Muslims are killed nobody talked, because war on terror brings lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$. To make that market springing, racism and xenophobia must be sky-high. The people who died in the Church are just a side effect for the wheel of war economy.  It's bigger than me; CL. And you. and quite lots of people.

What I find disrespectful, is how the fallen gets ignored when they are Muslims to keep the wheel fed.

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Write terrorist in google images.



This is what you get.
A terrorist is a brown man with a suicide vest, AK-47 and a Quran. This is the legacy of the war on terror propaganda, and what the world sees.

There is no blonde terrorists. There is no westerner terrorists.

There are some Westerners who will tell you that only Muslims (or, potentially, atheists) can be terrorists.

Those are likely to be conservatives of the white persuasion (certainly not all conservatives or exclusively conservatives, of course).

White terrorist?

That prick in Norway who slaughtered the kids.
Timothy McVeigh (and others of his ilk).
Those "militia" arseholes who occupied some government land in the US a couple of years back.
The KKK.
The "pro life" mother fuckers who kill doctors/medical workers, and blow up clinics.
The IRA.

There are plenty of others.

While the general definition of a terrorist is provided above, I don't entirely agree with the definition.

But, whatever way you look at it, this arsehole and those cowards like him are vermin.

Simple as that, as far as I'm concerned.

Stereotyping is one thing I despise; people will always differ from one the next; so yes it's about personal view, but I still see that many chose to side with the stereotype in defining what others are. If you side with this opinion, masses of other people don't; and they make soldiers in the different clashing armies around the world. The good are so few.

I doubt that the millions that voted Trump hold your opinion. I doubt that the majority of Muslims hold your opinion, too.

I'm not bashing westerners with my comments and posts. I'm bashing the Hippocratic double standards that many Muslims and non-Muslims adapt.
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Ssshhh, all of you.


Have you no respect for the profits of the gun industry?


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i...n-violence

1,516 mass shootings in 1,735 days: America's gun crisis – in one chart

Not including today.

This is it ! Youtube already has videos of so many consumable firearms that look like advertising more than a fanmade stuff.

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Also, don't forget that Saudi Arabia has listed atheists as "terrorists".

Just an excuse to throw resistance in prisons.

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There is no westerner terrorists.

Really? Here is an actual road sign



Yes, that is genuine. Yes I have driven past it many times and yes it means exactly what it says. The Barrett 50 was the weapon of choice. Do not even attempt to pretend that western terrorism does not exist.

I want to post the aftermath of .50CAL ammo fired against civilians, but I'm afraid from getting banned.
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Write terrorist in google images.



This is what you get.
A terrorist is a brown man with a suicide vest, AK-47 and a Quran. This is the legacy of the war on terror propaganda, and what the world sees.

There is no blonde terrorists. There is no westerner terrorists.

Taken literally this is patently false.

I assume you meant "This is the way terrorism is often misrepresented as exclusively being:[...]" yes?

I wish.
See the video of the brave American veteran I posted to CL
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A terrorist is someone with a political motive.

Sad to say, I'm a bit more terrified of American crazies loaded to the teeth with weapons and ammo and who watch Infowars on a constant loop than I am of some brown people with religious (not political) beliefs.

-Teresa

One thing: religious derived terrorists can be easily controlled and fought because their beliefs are very crazy; even to other religious people.
For example; Al-Qaeda and ISIS jihadists usually get reported, arrested/ terminated before they strike. Without automatic weapons (sold by America and Russia and China) and bombs, they won't make a noticeable effect. Look at ISIS. Their "outlaw state" didn't even completed half a decade.

While the American army has AC-130 and Silver Bullets, and rightist racists literally have what it takes to become presidents of nuclear states.

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My heart does fall for the dead.
But I must say: where is the hypocrite terrorist accusation that so many throw when the killer is brown?
Isn't this dog a terrorist? or is he treated better just because he's a non-Muslim?

This is terrorism, carried out of inferiority complexes for the sake of satisfying sick, who knows what brain farts; mad thoughts; just like brown killers.
Why isn't this labeled as a terrorist attack?
Just why?

Killers like this guy are promoted in the U.S army if they join, and considered heroes when they kill brown Muslim people.
The poor Christian dead, are just like the Vegas dead; like brown dead: victims of terrorism.

Gun manufacturers are the terrorists. Without these guns, these huge casualties won't happen. The Sauds won't have bombs to bomb; the Vegas shooter won't have ammo to load.

Shooting up a church is a federal felony, so it's like terrorism.

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Actually, it is the kind of country we live in. Much of the world figured this out a long time ago.

This is America where people have used violence to settle disagreements since 1620.  It's our culture and we love it.  Right now our President is threatening to nuke North Korea unless it kisses his ass.

OK,keep your violence where it belongs and don't bring it to my home.

[pocaracas]

Judging by min's link that shows that there is almost a "mass shooting" per day in the US.... "now is not the time" happens daily.
Brian is right, the big reason behind all these is easy access that comes from a flooded market.

I was recently shocked that they sold fireworks at Tesco, here in the UK... imagine how I felt when I was told that you 'murricans can buy guns at Walmart!!
This sort of attitude towards guns needs to change.

Civilians don't need guns.
But what we find, for this case, is "Authorities said they found multiple weapons in the gunman’s vehicle."
If that guy used only one or two weapons to kill more than 20 people, imagine the damage he could have done.

I'm not a politician, but, considering all that you've been through, I can envisage a phasing out plan... demanding proper registration and a yearly renewable license to own a firearm, seem sensible and in line with many other countries. As soon as the license expires, due to lack of payment, lack of psychological ability, or lack of physical capacity, the weapons are confiscated, or bought by the state (or some federal mechanism) at a symbolic price.
One could go further and impose only one weapon per person, or per household.
Guns would only be sold at specialty stores with strict connections to a centralized system aimed to prevent fraud in licenses and registrations.
Heck, If I ever wanted to buy a gun in Portugal, I have no idea where to go... yellow pages? I'm sure that is not the case in the US. Is there any american here who doesn't know where they can buy a gun, not too far from their place of residence?

[Aroura]

Also, I don’t see how wanting to help prevent the mass murder of innocent people is “politicizing” It. You know who politicizes this discussion every time? The NRA.

At this point, it appears there can be no discussion. One side is clutching their guns and listening to fake news that amps their fears up that people want to take their guns. And fake news that those guns protect them, when statistically they are much more likely to do the opposite.

If 20 little children getting their faces shot off didn’t motivate those assholes to research reality, nothing will. Nothing. This will just continue until the end of th US as a nation. I’m sickened, saddened and disgusted.

[ignoramus]

I had to laugh at this...
Corrupt and lawless African countries don't even come close to the good old US of A when it come to females being killed by a gun....

[Aroura]

I read about one of the moms of a kid at Neetown. She wrote about her experience to help ease her grief. Her boy was literally shot in the face. His jaw was mostly missing, and one of his hands too, trying to protect himself. She said she made herself view his body because it was important that she was him mom no matter his condition. It was one of the most heart breaking things I’ve ever read.

If women need to see a baby heartbeat before getting an abortion, maybe we could make sure people see the mutilated children their gun purchase might result in before being allowed to buy a gun.