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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 2:11 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. Currently, no one occupies Hell (probably not even in existence yet), the first 2 to enter are the Anti-Christ, and His False Prophet which is before the 1000 year Kingdom Reign of Christ on earth. 3'rd is Satan himself at the end of the 1000 years (for that period, for almost it's entire duration, he will be held in the bottomless pit). At the end of the 1000 years, there is the Great White Judgement of those that wish not to accept God's Work-of-Redemption and desire go into their eternal abode without God's influence. But God still protects those there from the one's who demonstrated the most evil on earth by restraining there actions which causes them 'torment'. The 'New Creation' is a free sin zone but the really good part is free-will is greatly enhanced without even the possibility of sinning.
Figures. "Great White Judgement". So people of color are fucked no matter what. 
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm
(November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Cod Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Currently, no one occupies Hell (probably not even in existence yet), the first 2 to enter are the Anti-Christ, and His False Prophet which is before the 1000 year Kingdom Reign of Christ on earth. 3'rd is Satan himself at the end of the 1000 years (for that period, for almost it's entire duration, he will be held in the bottomless pit). At the end of the 1000 years, there is the Great White Judgement of those that wish not to accept God's Work-of-Redemption and desire go into their eternal abode without God's influence. But God still protects those there from the one's who demonstrated the most evil on earth by restraining there actions which causes them 'torment'. The 'New Creation' is a free sin zone but the really good part is free-will is greatly enhanced without even the possibility of sinning.
No possibility of sinning, what's the point of that then? I've lived quite happily without Gods influence up to now, I can cope with being separate from him as long as I'm not on fire.
Everything's better when you're not on fire.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 2:29 pm
(November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Cod Wrote: No possibility of sinning, what's the point of that then? I've lived quite happily without Gods influence up to now, I can cope with being separate from him as long as I'm not on fire.
Everything's better when you're not on fire.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 3:00 pm
(November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Everything's better when you're not on fire.
We should have that on a t-shirt.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 22, 2017 at 4:44 pm
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 23, 2017 at 4:17 am
(November 22, 2017 at 2:11 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Currently, no one occupies Hell (probably not even in existence yet), the first 2 to enter are the Anti-Christ, and His False Prophet which is before the 1000 year Kingdom Reign of Christ on earth. 3'rd is Satan himself at the end of the 1000 years (for that period, for almost it's entire duration, he will be held in the bottomless pit). At the end of the 1000 years, there is the Great White Judgement of those that wish not to accept God's Work-of-Redemption and desire go into their eternal abode without God's influence. But God still protects those there from the one's who demonstrated the most evil on earth by restraining there actions which causes them 'torment'. The 'New Creation' is a free sin zone but the really good part is free-will is greatly enhanced without even the possibility of sinning.
Figures. "Great White Judgement". So people of color are fucked no matter what.
It's supposed to be "Great White Throne Judgement". Mentioned in Revelation 20:11-15.
Whether there is currently anyone in hell is not made clear in the Bible. The Catholic church teaches that there are currently souls suffering there, but they will get their bodies back on the Last Day and suffer both in body and in soul.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word.
Before asking or making such a statement you need to know what we have to do to receive those things. Your question as asked is unanswerable and is not preached by knowledgeable preachers.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm
(November 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word.
Before asking or making such a statement you need to know what we have to do to receive those things. Your question as asked is unanswerable and is not preached by knowledgeable preachers.
GC
Well tell us then. Can I murder someone, then repent and accept Jesus for the prize? Tell us.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 27, 2017 at 6:44 am
(November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Cod Wrote: (November 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Before asking or making such a statement you need to know what we have to do to receive those things. Your question as asked is unanswerable and is not preached by knowledgeable preachers.
GC
Well tell us then. Can I murder someone, then repent and accept Jesus for the prize? Tell us.
Not with the attitude you have in responding to my post, repentance is humbling yourself before God and admitting you are a sinner. many have committed murder and later with sincerity repented of what they have done, from the smallest thing to the largest thing. By the way there is no prize, we receive a gift from God and that is total forgiveness, it is unmerited and totally free. Unless you are willing to accept Jesus for who He is the answer to your question is no.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Eternal afterlife
November 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm
(November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Eternal punishment for temporary crimes and eternal heaven for temporary work? It sounds unnatural. And yet people preach it like it's perfect God's word. Currently, no one occupies Hell (probably not even in existence yet), the first 2 to enter are the Anti-Christ, and His False Prophet which is before the 1000 year Kingdom Reign of Christ on earth. 3'rd is Satan himself at the end of the 1000 years (for that period, for almost it's entire duration, he will be held in the bottomless pit). At the end of the 1000 years, there is the Great White Judgement of those that wish not to accept God's Work-of-Redemption and desire go into their eternal abode without God's influence. But God still protects those there from the one's who demonstrated the most evil on earth by restraining there actions which causes them 'torment'. The 'New Creation' is a free sin zone but the really good part is free-will is greatly enhanced without even the possibility of sinning.
If there's no possibility of sinning then there's no sex and no personal possessions.
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