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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 7:02 am
(December 16, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Starhunter Wrote: https://phys.org/news/2017-08-atheists-t...ellow.html
I thought I'd just pick up a random article and post it...
Atheists are less open-minded than religious people, study claims | The Independent
And here is another one from the same source as the OP.
Even with all the flaws of the research posted in the OP it's substantially better than the "study" you're linking to. Work done by rcc researchers in the most catholic university in Europe is inevitably going to toe the line of "we have the conclusion, now lets find something to support it".
My reading of the whole situation is not that atheists are more intelligent (at least in a way that is statistaclly significant), but that they are better educated, especially in critical thinking (the tools which allow you to deconstruct an argument anf find flaws, logical inconsistencies and outright lies), thus why you see university educated people likely to be atheist and post grads even more likely still.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 7:08 am
I'd say that on average, university students and professors are likely to be more intelligent than the average person. That intelligence will correlate with whatever values exist in the majority of post-secondary institutions.
For example, I'd say that these days, it's likely that there's a positive correlation between certain social values and intelligence.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 7:26 am
(December 16, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Starhunter Wrote: https://phys.org/news/2017-08-atheists-t...ellow.html
I thought I'd just pick up a random article and post it...
Atheists are less open-minded than religious people, study claims | The Independent
And here is another one from the same source as the OP.
I, for one, am not open minded to nonsense, only to evidence.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 7:28 am
(December 17, 2017 at 7:02 am)Wololo Wrote: Even with all the flaws of the research posted in the OP it's substantially better than the "study" you're linking to. Work done by rcc researchers in the most catholic university in Europe is inevitably going to toe the line of "we have the conclusion, now lets find something to support it".
My reading of the whole situation is not that atheists are more intelligent (at least in a way that is statistaclly significant), but that they are better educated, especially in critical thinking (the tools which allow you to deconstruct an argument anf find flaws, logical inconsistencies and outright lies), thus why you see university educated people likely to be atheist and post grads even more likely still.
That's right, there will be bias on either side of the argument. A radio program spoke about this survey and it was supposedly found that churches are more likely to consist of the lower classes in society, which are relatively uneducated. While this speaks well of charity, it isn't necessarily a reflection of the 'brains' of all religious people either.
But to obtain an education in a university, you have to be able to absorb atheist ideas. And if the intellectually ambitious of society are being filtered through this system, then of course there will be a measurable correlation between the educated and atheistic philosophies.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 7:35 am
What are these atheistic philosophies of which you speak?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 7:43 am
(December 17, 2017 at 7:35 am)Succubus Wrote: What are these atheistic philosophies of which you speak?
1st year Uni will open that up to you.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 12:52 pm
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(December 17, 2017 at 7:28 am)Starhunter Wrote: But to obtain an education in a university, you have to be able to absorb atheist ideas. And if the intellectually ambitious of society are being filtered through this system, then of course there will be a measurable correlation between the educated and atheistic philosophies.
Damn. If only there was an expression to describe a 'mind' that is 'open' to assessing new and different ideas critically. I hear that theists are the super bestest at doing that.
Let me guess - you were homeschooled, weren't you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 1:22 pm
(December 17, 2017 at 7:43 am)Starhunter Wrote: (December 17, 2017 at 7:35 am)Succubus Wrote: What are these atheistic philosophies of which you speak?
1st year Uni will open that up to you.
Ah, the good ole passing of the buck.
No, you made an assertion. Back it up. BTW, I think you'll find that most of us have degrees, so we've experienced what a 1st year at a university is like.
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RE: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
December 17, 2017 at 5:16 pm
(December 17, 2017 at 7:28 am)Starhunter Wrote: But to obtain an education in a university, you have to be able to absorb atheist ideas. And if the intellectually ambitious of society are being filtered through this system, then of course there will be a measurable correlation between the educated and atheistic philosophies.
Well done you've completely missed my point. People as a rule don't become atheist because they are "exposed to atheist ideas", and universities are not chock a block with atheism. Most people become atheist because a) they're brought up that way or b) they've examined religion(s) and found something lacking and have thus discarded them.
What a good third level education will do (and if you're lucky a good second level education too) is give you the tools to look at a problem, critically analyse it and come up with a solution. That's not atheism, that's reasoning.
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