(November 6, 2010 at 7:40 pm)ScienceIsTheOnlyLord Wrote: adrian. of course people can be offended by it. i am a person. it offends me. you over intellectualise every word of every argument. people define offense differently. differently to you. differently to your logic. your logic is meaningless to most people. surely you, of all the worlds people, know that people define things differently. how many times have you had arguments with people about definitions? it's about 10% of your forum life isn't it?Pray tell, how it the phrase (and joke...) "blasphemy is a victimless crime" offensive to you?
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'Blasphemy is a victimless crime' is utter arrogance
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(November 6, 2010 at 7:40 pm)ScienceIsTheOnlyLord Wrote: adrian. of course people can be offended by it. i am a person. it offends me. you over intellectualise every word of every argument. people define offense differently. differently to you. differently to your logic. your logic is meaningless to most people. surely you, of all the worlds people, know that people define things differently. how many times have you had arguments with people about definitions? it's about 10% of your forum life isn't it? 1. Definitions that are not commonly accepted are useless. If you want to define 'offence' however you like, despite the impications for coherent conversation, then you can go join the "Existentialist club". 2. There is no "your logic" and "my logic", you are either sucessful in using logic or you are not. 3. You don't have the right not to be offended. If my making a statement offends you I honestly don't care, unless you can show my statement to be false it stands, regardless of the implications for your sensibilities. If i say "There are no sound and valid reasons to believe a god exist, thus all belief in god is unreasonable" and that offends someone then so what? Until they can show my statement is wrong I'm not going to retract it.
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(November 6, 2010 at 7:48 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(November 6, 2010 at 7:40 pm)ScienceIsTheOnlyLord Wrote: adrian. of course people can be offended by it. i am a person. it offends me. you over intellectualise every word of every argument. people define offense differently. differently to you. differently to your logic. your logic is meaningless to most people. surely you, of all the worlds people, know that people define things differently. how many times have you had arguments with people about definitions? it's about 10% of your forum life isn't it?Pray tell, how it the phrase (and joke...) "blasphemy is a victimless crime" offensive to you? Because he's another evangelist pretending to be an Atheist.
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i love that you think i can't be atheist cos i don't agree with you on politics! i don't believe in god! what more do you want. unbelievable.
(November 6, 2010 at 7:54 pm)ScienceIsTheOnlyLord Wrote: i love that you think i can't be atheist cos i don't agree with you on politics! i don't believe in god! what more do you want. unbelievable. It's entirely believable. After all, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.
When did we start discussing politics?
And the reason I think you're lying is because you pretty much fit that archetype of an evangelist posing as an atheist to a tee, we've had enough of them come here that it becomes rather apparent when someone else is doing the same thing. I could be wrong but at this point I see no reason to accept your sincerity.
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RE: 'Blasphemy is a victimless crime' is utter arrogance
November 6, 2010 at 8:02 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2010 at 8:05 pm by ScienceIsTheOnlyLord.)
blasphemy is a vict... etc. offends me because it is not victimless. no matter how much you refuse to acknowledge other people's capacity to feel victimised. to say it jokingly, with the intend to provoke, and the sentence is fine to me. but to truly believe it, seems cruel to me.
yes. i fit your archetype. i fit your pre-defined notion of a man with my views.
I'm sure children get mad if someone calls santa a fat fuck, that does not mean santa has been offended.
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i'm not worried about upsetting god! where have you picked that up from? you're just throwing things at me now from out of nowhere. ahhh, so that's what your name means!
You, my son, are a troll... and once everyone is finished playing with you, you are going to end up being banned. But you already know all that don't you?
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