'Blasphemy is a victimless crime' is utter arrogance

[LastPoet]

Ahhhhh, and here I was, getting home and a little blue when I find this gem of thread, just to sheer me up, thanks for the laugh ScienceIsTheOnlyLord LOL

You know, we are like cats, we play with an almost dead mouse, only after we had our fun we give him the coup de grace.

[Tiberius]

You can look at it that way. I'd say that anything defined by government to be a crime, is a crime. That can include things that are considered morally / ethically wrong, or right, by any number of people.

So yes, I'd say it is a joke that blasphemy was ever called a crime, but I wouldn't say that it wasn't ever a crime, because crimes are defined by law, and not by whether people agree with them or not.

I'd also like to point out that my "integrity" isn't affected by whether I agree or disagree with you. I'll agree with you when I agree with you, and disagree with you on the other occasions. This time, I half agree with you, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that blasphemy can never be a crime.

[fr0d0]

Haha @ Existentialist

Seems like the OP says something that ACCIDENTALLY offends a few people, they gang up on him defensively and then call him arrogant and offensive. Hilarious

If i say "There are no sound and valid reasons to believe a god exist, thus all belief in god is unreasonable" and that offends someone then so what? Until they can show my statement is wrong I'm not going to retract it.

If you cannot prove that there are no sound and valid reasons to believe a god exists, and therefore that all belief in a god is unreasonable, then you should retract that statement.

[Existentialist]

Thanks for your reply Adrian. I do look at it that way.

From my point of view, blasphemy isn't a crime, just like a 21-year-old having same-sex sexual relationship with 20-year-old was never a crime. Both are just pathetic excuses for a criminally overbearing state to come down like a ton of bricks on dissent. It's interesting that the fight to get rid of both stupid excuses for laws included conflict with the gay community which wasn't ready to be pushed around by other people's ideas of what a crime was, the first involving Gay News and an artistic work about the emotional life of Jesus, the second a long-term fight for equality on the age of consent. Those struggles against the literal truth as defined by authority have been very easily forgotten.

Blasphemy was never a crime. The state just pretended it was. Same with criminalising consenting adults.

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Haha @ Existentialist

Why?

[LastPoet]

Well Ex, you seem to like to take a deeper look at things, may I inquire what a crime is to you?

[ib.me.ub]

whats wrong with facism

[Existentialist]

Well Ex, you seem to like to take a deeper look at things, may I inquire what a crime is to you?

What am I supposed to say? Should I bow to pressure and say that adultery, blasphemy and homosexuality are crimes - just because some states in the world pretend that they are? Or do you want me to say what I think?

Am I free to say what I think here?

[LastPoet]

Am I free to say what I think here?

Why wouldn't you be? Yes, what you think, I've heard the common definitions...

[fr0d0]

If laws are broken then crimes are committed. You don't get to choose what is and isn't, only that you disagree.

You're free to say whatever you like but it may get you banned and the post deleted if it isn't what the forum leaders want to see.

I thought you were taking the piss BTW.

[Existentialist]

You're free to say whatever you like but it may get you banned and the post deleted if it isn't what the forum leaders want to see.

That's not what free means though is it?