Why you should distrust all religions.

[JackRussell]

Didn't have time yet to watch the whole video either.

But FOXp2 fucks creationism.

Savannah survival traits explain religious thinking, because stopping to think was once disadvantageous.

[Jehanne]

Of course it does!  If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them?  How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?

You tell me... do you just assume that is the case?

I think that mental illness is the default assumption.  Listen to Episode #25; the good professor discusses people who dream of becoming amputees.  Mental illnesses takes a very wide form and breadth.  Why should I believe that Paul had a divine experience as opposed to some sort of epilepsy?

[RoadRunner79]

You tell me... do you just assume that is the case?

I think that mental illness is the default assumption.  Listen to Episode #25; the good professor discusses people who dream of becoming amputees.  Mental illnesses takes a very wide form and breadth.  Why should I believe that Paul had a divine experience as opposed to some sort of epilepsy?

This to me sounds like something I find to be very common here. That when something opposes your worldview, that it is then defaulted to either lying or crazy.

I would ask why you think epilepsy is a better explanation? Just a guess, but I think it’s going to be begging the question.

[Jehanne]

Of course it does!  If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them?  How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?

Yeah, that's exactly what us religious folks think when we can't find something....

A changeling is a creature found in folklore and folk religion. A changeling child was believed to be a fairy child that had been left in place of a human child stolen by the fairies. The theme of the swapped child is common in medieval literature and reflects concern over infants thought to be afflicted with unexplained diseases, disorders, or developmental disabilities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling

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I think that mental illness is the default assumption.  Listen to Episode #25; the good professor discusses people who dream of becoming amputees.  Mental illnesses takes a very wide form and breadth.  Why should I believe that Paul had a divine experience as opposed to some sort of epilepsy?

This to me sounds like something I find to be very common here.  That when something opposes your worldview, that it is then defaulted to either lying or crazy.

I would ask why you think epilepsy is a better explanation?  Just a guess, but I think it’s going to be begging the question.

Because there are people who have epilepsy who claim to have visions and hear voices, but once they have the proper medications, the visions and voices go away.

[Godscreated]

I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.

Of course it does!  If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them?  How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?

 I know a person who is functionally schizophrenic and will be in heaven, she is a wonderful lady you could learn from.

GC

[Nay_Sayer]

Of course it does!  If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them?  How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?

 I know a person who is functionally schizophrenic and will be in heaven, she is a wonderful lady you could learn from.

GC

I know someone on this forum (CL, *wink kiss*) who is generally nice to everyone and isn't a total asshat, You could learn from her.

[Drich]

I don’t see how the title of the thread, relates to the video. Certainly it doesn’t seem to follow from the video that people who have had a religious experience are mentally ill.

Of course it does!  If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them?  How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?

You simply vet the message or experience.

God rarly just burns a bush without providing a message. So test the message.

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It's why Drich and GC can't accept that I have A/S/D'd and got fuck all, our inability to have received the divine and accept their shit must be our fault.

And they become mind-readers.

They must be right, so I must be doing it wrong.

It's the binary world of good/bad, heaven/hell, free/slave.

No nuance allowed and certainly no dissension.

That's not it at all sport.

There is no end to the ask part mentioned in the parable or the bible. meaning if you say you asked as in past tense, and you are not currently asking, then you did not follow the instructions. you have to ask open endedly

Here is why we are to ask open endedly: Because in doing so (depending on how hard our heart is) God is to lead us out past our broken/bad understanding of Him, past the point of hope from help of others, to a place of darkness or even prosperty... Well beyond anything we understand.. to the point where only God could bring you back. If you can continue through that God will lead you to where you are supposed to be. All of this in an effort to humble you and have you meet Him on His terms. God will not meet you on yours.

[JackRussell]

Yeah, you're not humble, I have, ASK'd repeatedly and nothing.

You offer lies, or you are special, and that I believe.

[Jehanne]

Of course it does!  If I lose my keys, do I just assume that a fairy took them?  How do you distinguish between someone who is a functional schizophrenic from someone who has a "genuine" religious experience?

You simply vet the message or experience.

God rarly just burns a bush without providing a message. So test the message.

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Kind of a spiritual artificial selection? Hmmm....

[RoadRunner79]

You tell me... do you just assume that is the case?

I think that mental illness is the default assumption.  Listen to Episode #25; the good professor discusses people who dream of becoming amputees.  Mental illnesses takes a very wide form and breadth.  Why should I believe that Paul had a divine experience as opposed to some sort of epilepsy?

Why do you default to that assumption?   If you default to metal illness without reason, then is there something I could provide, which could change your mind?  While we don't have direct statements, Paul also had two other people with him who are said to have seen and heard.   Do you think this fits your theory of epilepsy?

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This to me sounds like something I find to be very common here.  That when something opposes your worldview, that it is then defaulted to either lying or crazy.

I would ask why you think epilepsy is a better explanation?  Just a guess, but I think it’s going to be begging the question.

Because there are people who have epilepsy who claim to have visions and hear voices, but once they have the proper medications, the visions and voices go away.

That doesn't tell me, why you think it is a better explanation. I'm thinking even more so, that this will be circular reasoning.