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Prayer
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 (January 10, 2018 at 2:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 1:15 pm)c152 Wrote: God never heal amputees. Heal actual amputees apart from in a highly dubious collection of edited and retold stories, since clarification was needed.
"History is something that very few people have been doing while everyone else was ploughing fields and carrying water buckets." -Yuval Noah Harari
 (January 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Prayer does work, wether or not YOU believe it does is irrelevant, it's only relevant to the person doing the praying.. Fucking prove it. Your claim, your burden.
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"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
 (January 10, 2018 at 2:20 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 2:13 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: What is your evidence in support of your belief that prayer works? god is a sugar pill. Yea! I can get those at the store.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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January 10, 2018 at 3:39 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2018 at 3:46 pm by Huggy Bear.)
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January 10, 2018 at 3:54 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2018 at 4:00 pm by purplepurpose.)
@Huggy74 "Force powers were the manifestations of a Jedi, Sith, or other Force-adept's connection with the Force, an energy field that binds everything in existence. These powers were supernatural abilities not described by scientists. The powers were usually taught by Force-using organizations, but there were examples of individual, self-improving methods of learning to use the Force".
So it was reported to work once and now is unreliable. Sounds like homeopathy.
The placebo affect is understood, mindfulness I get, prayer is both un-evidenced and morally unfair. Can you work out why? (January 10, 2018 at 3:54 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: @Huggy74 "Force powers were the manifestations of a Jedi, Sith, or other Force-adept's connection with the Force, an energy field that binds everything in existence. These powers were supernatural abilities not described by scientists. The powers were usually taught by Force-using organizations, but there were examples of individual, self-improving methods of learning to use the Force". Except science acknowledges unequivocal that healing can be accomplished solely based on belief, so were not talking about anything remotely similar are we? 
"Man, I'm so happy by doctor prescribed me church and prayer to cure this cancer of mine" - no one, ever, in the course of history.
(January 10, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(January 10, 2018 at 3:54 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: @Huggy74 "Force powers were the manifestations of a Jedi, Sith, or other Force-adept's connection with the Force, an energy field that binds everything in existence. These powers were supernatural abilities not described by scientists. The powers were usually taught by Force-using organizations, but there were examples of individual, self-improving methods of learning to use the Force". Bullshit, science shows that remission of illness can occur and because we are somewhat complex a reason may not be evident. The placebo effect and remission are not equal to magic; just that the cause is not known. No magic required, and further investigation may have been able to elucidate the cause. We are normally just happy for a recovered person and then move onto somebody still in distress. Lack of data does not equal correlation. |
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