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F the Sh*thole brownshirt GOP..........
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(January 17, 2018 at 2:15 pm)wallym Wrote: I didn't watch the video.  Did they mention the felony conviction?

As a matter of fact it said he has no criminal record..... but that won't stop your FOX FUX pals from inventing something, will it?
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(January 17, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(January 17, 2018 at 2:15 pm)wallym Wrote: I didn't watch the video.  Did they mention the felony conviction?

As a matter of fact it said he has no criminal record..... but that won't stop your FOX FUX pals from inventing something, will it?

If your sources are Fucks News or Breitclusterfuck, or Alex Jones, your credibility is shot.
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(January 17, 2018 at 3:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 17, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: As a matter of fact it said he has no criminal record..... but that won't stop your FOX FUX pals from inventing something, will it?

If your sources are Fucks News or Breitclusterfuck, or Alex Jones, your credibility is shot.

I was mistaken.  The original point, is that news report didn't say he wasn't a criminal.  They said his wife said he wasn't a criminal, and the news didn't indicate they fact checked it.  Rather than take the word of the wife, I figured I'd look it up as family members sometimes have small amounts of bias.

So I googled Jorge Garcia deportation snopes, and it wasn't covered.  But I did see someone link to a 'Holder vs. Garcia' document, regarding the deportation of Jorge Garcia from Michigan with a timetable that seemed to line up with this story. 

I think the document is a different Jorge Garcia from Michigan that's been in the US for decades getting deported.  That's my bad.  But if news confirms he has no criminal record rather than reporting that the wife said he didn't, it wouldn't have been up to me to go looking.  Unless that is the same Jorge Garcia, but I assume Fox News/Breitbart/Alex Jones would have picked up the story by now if that were the case.

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To the original point, I agree sending away this guy seems like it should be low priority.  But the villain isn't the law.  It's the dad who brought him into country in the first place.  Which is why the whole immigration thing needs to get sorted out.  I'm certainly not opposed to making an exception for this Jorge.  At the same time, I'm not opposed to not making an exception either.  With the illegal immigration problem being what it is, something closer to zero tolerance would certainly take away a lot of the incentives to do what his father did.
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What -is- the illegal immigration problem?  What does it mean to say that it is what it is.  Some of us haven't quite figured out what that's supposed to be - so referencing it doesn't really give us much information, it doesn't really qualify or explain your position.
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(January 17, 2018 at 11:17 pm)wallym Wrote:
(January 17, 2018 at 3:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If your sources are Fucks News or Breitclusterfuck, or Alex Jones, your credibility is shot.

I was mistaken.  The original point, is that news report didn't say he wasn't a criminal.  They said his wife said he wasn't a criminal, and the news didn't indicate they fact checked it.  Rather than take the word of the wife, I figured I'd look it up as family members sometimes have small amounts of bias.

So I googled Jorge Garcia deportation snopes, and it wasn't covered.  But I did see someone link to a 'Holder vs. Garcia' document, regarding the deportation of Jorge Garcia from Michigan with a timetable that seemed to line up with this story. 

I think the document is a different Jorge Garcia from Michigan that's been in the US for decades getting deported.  That's my bad.  But if news confirms he has no criminal record rather than reporting that the wife said he didn't, it wouldn't have been up to me to go looking.  Unless that is the same Jorge Garcia, but I assume Fox News/Breitbart/Alex Jones would have picked up the story by now if that were the case.

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To the original point, I agree sending away this guy seems like it should be low priority.  But the villain isn't the law.  It's the dad who brought him into country in the first place.  Which is why the whole immigration thing needs to get sorted out.  I'm certainly not opposed to making an exception for this Jorge.  At the same time, I'm not opposed to not making an exception either.  With the illegal immigration problem being what it is, something closer to zero tolerance would certainly take away a lot of the incentives to do what his father did.

The villain isn't the law the villain are the ASSHOLE GOP and President Shithole.

Nobody sane is arguing to keep violent people here, FROM ANY COUNTRY, but it is cruel to separate a family that is non violent. The GOP and 45 have made it about labels and this constant vilification of others is dangerous. It hurts the innocent as well as making law's job harder.
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(January 17, 2018 at 9:34 am)Brian37 Wrote: I have TWO Hispanic families on both sides of me. They live on the same planet I do. They have families too. In my 10 years of living at my current location, I have not had one bit of trouble from either family. I don't have kids myself, but I am quite sue their kids love their parents as much as their parents love them. To tear a non violent parent away from their kids is simply FUCKING CRUEL!




So the father gets deported and we're supposed to cry about it?  His illegal alien parents invaded this country with him.  He should invade his original home country with his family.  He can't do that because his country has strict laws about illegal aliens bunking with them.  So if his country won't allow it why should we allow it?
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(January 17, 2018 at 9:43 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Yeah, they would probably boot Isaac Asimov, if he was alive today, back to Russia.

Pity they don't boot half of president Shitpickle back to Germany and the other half to Scotland, like he deserves.
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Quote: So if his country won't allow it why should we allow it?

Murica!  Proudly following where other assholes lead?
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(January 17, 2018 at 3:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 17, 2018 at 2:53 pm)wallym Wrote: It's my first question, because the smell of bullshit was overpowering, and so I googled it.

He was brought here at 10.  He became a permanent resident in '95.  Then in '98 he pled guilty to a felony and lost his status.  DHS started removal procedures in 2005.

It's sad we have to google news stories to see if they are bullshit, but that's where we are now.  He was here legally, and would have remained here if he didn't fuck it up.

So you are accusing CBS of lying?

What was his "felony"? Where is your link?

Being brown is a felony in wally's world, just like being jewish is.
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(January 18, 2018 at 3:22 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
Quote: So if his country won't allow it why should we allow it?

Murica!  Proudly following where other assholes lead?

Have you ever heard about the concept of reciprocity?  Why should the US allow tens of millions of illegal aliens into the country when the countries where they came from won't tolerate any illegal aliens?
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