Black Unemployment Rate at Record Low

[downbeatplumb]

LOL< no, my customers are the folks who can get a job at a toyota subsidiary in rural america.  You know..not heroine addicts, have a hsd or better, will show up to work, can operate assembly apparatus...white?  That sort of thing?  

See, the gov stuff, that I do for -you- just offsets my operational inputs..and who wants to live like that, paycheck to paycheck or worse?  Not me, been there, never going back.  I actually do benefit from trickle down fantasies, but only because I'm not an honest hardworking american.  I;m a member of the landed caste, with generational money..that is worth more or less depending on how hard our government intends to fuck the poor on any given fiscal year.  So, when plebes like yourself get the greasy shaft, I have a bumper year...but I can't help but feel bad about it.


Picking winners and losers..........and I see you've abandoned your skepticism and said, in effect, "fuck automotive assembly line employees".......because when they can't buy my shit anymore, I won't be able to drink with abandon @ noon on a tuesday and put up 350 posts here on AF......but they won't be able to afford their bills....and that's when I buy up all their assets on the cheap.  Fun fact, I'm sitting here, right now.....on a former thoroughbred farm and I'm pretty sure the previous owner was having a heart attack when he signed it over to me for 30 dollars on the acre.  I do love a foreclosure.

It's a family tradition.  #MAGA

So maybe, for a moment, before you stick your foot in your mouth making excuses for trump and trickle down..entertain the notion that the person you're talking to is the beneficiary of fucked up schemes to protect their wealth at the cost of impoverishing the average joe, and not some dirt poor commie sympathizing welfare queen..... huh, peach?

So now your story changes - and I quote:

I'm a "consultant" well dug in to local, state and federal government. In the winter...I sometimes pull part time hours managing them as a production supervisor - because I have a higher level of education/experience and come from a more demanding industry (DOD contract manufacturing). I have the chops and contacts (nepotism ftw) to come and go as I please and set my own terms. They, on the other hand, are prisoners of their own relatively fortunate situations.

To make it relatable...you know those guys you see putting mosquito traps on ditches and taking samples from your watershed runoff and quantifying game fish pops in local waterways? That's me. GOV work

(NRCS, EPA,  RCDC)

 I operate a very small farm with a very specific clientele (predominantly the state).

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So according to your own post, the majority of your work life has been spent feeding off income tax at some level (state/fed).  You have produced nothing towards the GDP until you began peddling tomatos to your wifes underlings.
Bravo I suppose...

Again, you claim to know what these underlings for your wife pay in taxes each year vs what they expect to pay under the new tax rates, but I straight up don't believe you are correct and became dismissive of your output at that point.  You have not seen their tax returns so you really don't know what you are claiming.  

And so far, Trumps plans have worked out well for me.  It doesn't bother me that its worked out well for people with more than I have.  It doesn't bother me that you have benefited. 

Oh, and its heroin.... a whole different meaning than heroine.

Trickle down economics does work.

Give the money to the poor is the way to boost the economy.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and that's the rub.  

Since this trickle down bullshit isn't and never will put any extra money in the pockets of the people around here...all that's happened to my target demographic is a cap on their deductions that amounts to a loss.  This is tantamount to a dissolution of my target market and the economic viability of small mixed production operations in this area...which is a shame.  So good work, supply siders...shitting on the middle class and small farms that service a niche market all in one go. I didn;t know you had it in you to be so damned efficient.

I'm somewhat insulated because of the work I do for the public sector - though the trumpster and his team are chipping away at that as well, because who needs "environment", and what's all this "conservation" shit...and do we really need to do field tests and demonstration sites for alternative crops that might help the states ag sector maintain a baseline of profitability in the face of climate change?

LOLNAH..fake news!

On the bright side, I'll probably end up being able to shake a few dollars out of the trees when developers and property owners look to reduce some of their loss with ag easements and offsets under the PACE program.

[downbeatplumb]

If you give money to rich people they say "thanks very much" and keep it.
They already have all the money they need for they are rich.
Give poor people money and you get a better fed population who actually pay their debts and can perhaps spend a bit extra on going out to the restaurant and a nice TV.
You economy is helping the wrong people.

[Mister Agenda]

You're unfamiliar with agricultural work, so I forgive you for not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground and drawing conclusions based on that.  

My conclusions are based on your words.  BTW, I grew up on a farm.  Thats why I know your talking shit.  Bloviating even.

I grew up on a farm too. That's why I know Khemikal is on the level. Maybe you're just not that good at figuring out words.

[John V]

If you give money to take less money from rich people

FTFY

[Brian37]

If you give money to take less money from rich people

FTFY  

Taxes are not robbery you stupid fuck.

No point in having elections if only one class or one party get to decide everything for everyone else. Don't like the fact I vote? I could give a shit less. Grow the fuck up crybaby!

How the fuck do you pay for military, or police if nobody pays taxes?

[The Grand Nudger]

@MA

LOL, in janes defense, she hasn't been here long enough to see the pictures of me aimlessly wandering around my vertical stacks, grinning like an idiot..or showing off my fucking mutant zucchs the size of a small child, lol.  I actually get that response from people, in person, in my capacity with the extension, or when they bus a bunch of tobacco farmers into demo site.  

"You don't know what you're talking about, I grew up on a farm, my daddy didn't do it that way".Yes, yes, we know, but your daddy lost the farm, now didn't he?
(we're not allowed to actually say that, ofc, lol)

My favorite, though....by far...is ...... "you aint from around here" - as if I'd have to have grown up nextdoor...baling hay and hanging burley, in order to show them how people who actually do make money do it, as opposed to their failing grass farms that can't even survive on subsidy.   

Most of the old hats around here are hardcore trumphumpers themselves, and they seem to resent the suggestion that there is no longer a viable route to profitability for farms between 5 and 50 acres that doesn't involve some sort of direct marketing, agritourism, or research cooperation.  They certainly don't want to rearrange their operations to consumers expectations of local, sustainable, or ......:gasp:.......organic produce.  More than anything, they don't want to have to interact with their customers, the only ones who can keep their operations solvent being a bunch liberal commies who babble about how they're doing their part to save the earth.  


In what might be the saddest aspect of the entire thing, they're so entrenched in their politics and nostalgia for dead production methodologies that they waste their own money, taxpayers money, and disregard the advice of the people who have been deployed to assist them.  Like the coal miners who they live with and around..they're attached at the hip to an industry that no longer has any space for them.

For example.  We had an older gentleman whose sons had convinced him to dig about seven acres of paddlefish as part of an initiative for Kentucky to elbow it's way in on the  14 billion dollar seafood import industry.... and this being a landlocked state..not knowing anything about raising fish, some "coastal liberal" (me, lol) was tasked with assisting him in establishing a profitable stock.  His fish, you see, kept dying.  He was convinced that this was because he'd received poor advice from know nothing biologists @ UK.  Run a few tests on the water, capture a few juveniles and send them back for labs.  Easy stuff.  Except we didn't have to wait for the labs to know what was wrong with his fish.  Protozoa.  Simple fix.....very -very- small addition of salt.  It'd kill the parasites, but wouldn't harm the fish.   Imagine our surprise when we get another call to come out...this guy is cussing at us over the phone...48 hours later all he;s fish are dead.  Says iot;s our fault, that he should have known better than to ask "the godamned university" for advice.  We're mortified.  So..back out I go.  Took me all of 30 seconds to figure out what was wrong..because all of his fish had yellow gills.  Table salt.  Iodized salt.   This fuckin asshole thought that we had some sort of partner agreement with suppliers, and that he didn;t have to buy "that expensive shit you guys are trying to sell".

Good job, proceed directly to bankruptcy, just like daddy did.

(before anyone starts to worry that the world is full of people like this asshole above -lol-..most producers..even though they're dismissive and resistant in the beginning, only need to be shown the money and they suddenly become huge boosters for what we do, and even for all of the otherwise "liberal" causes that add value to their farm operations. )

[brewer]

When the black unemployment rate equals the white unemployment rate then I'll give a shit.

[Amarok]

FTFY

Nope you broke it . It was fixed before . like the economy would be if people didn't follow your liberation uber capitalist bullshit . and no taxation is a lawful and moral means of maintaining civilization . And alternative comes close to working as well .

[dyresand]

If you give money to take less money from rich people

FTFY  

If that's how you feel i mean... why have a military and government-funded programs and others that benefit the tax payers