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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:30 pm
(January 30, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: To be fair, we are talking about human evolution lol. Showing a picture of spiders where the female is bigger isn't going to do anything to the discussion where human females are smaller.
Evolution is evolution. It has the same function in every species. Observing the mechanism in any species helps you understand it as a concept, which beta clearly doesn't. I do wish that people who want to talk about evolution would try to actually understand it and maybe realize that it doesn't have anything to do with their religion.
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January 30, 2018 at 5:32 pm
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And Bet's dumb idea that females exist for reproduction can also be countered as is his absurdity the bigger means dominant . Id just that .
(January 30, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Shell B Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: To be fair, we are talking about human evolution lol. Showing a picture of spiders where the female is bigger isn't going to do anything to the discussion where human females are smaller.
Evolution is evolution. It has the same function in every species. Observing the mechanism in any species helps you understand it as a concept, which beta clearly doesn't. I do wish that people who want to talk about evolution would try to actually understand it and maybe realize that it doesn't have anything to do with their religion. Well put shell 
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:35 pm
(January 30, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: To be fair, we are talking about human evolution lol. Showing a picture of spiders where the female is bigger isn't going to do anything to the discussion where human females are smaller.
I'm simply pointing out that it's not always the male who's bigger . And also males are not always dominant . So Beta's silly idea of defining in universal term of female and males is wrong .
I'm pretty sure he was speaking only about the human species.
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:38 pm
(January 30, 2018 at 5:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:19 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I'm simply pointing out that it's not always the male who's bigger . And also males are not always dominant . So Beta's silly idea of defining in universal term of female and males is wrong .
I'm pretty sure he was speaking only about the human species. See shells response . And no he did not specify humans .
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:38 pm
The fun thing about evolution is that it's not a process that works differently for one species or another. So, yes..emphatic yes, the evolutionary reality of any species informs us as to the evolutionary situation of any other. It's the unifying theory of biology for a reason.
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:39 pm
(January 30, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Shell B Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: To be fair, we are talking about human evolution lol. Showing a picture of spiders where the female is bigger isn't going to do anything to the discussion where human females are smaller.
Evolution is evolution. It has the same function in every species. Observing the mechanism in any species helps you understand it as a concept, which beta clearly doesn't. I do wish that people who want to talk about evolution would try to actually understand it and maybe realize that it doesn't have anything to do with their religion.
I honestly have no opinion on the issue currently being discussed - that women have evolved to be weaker due to natural selection of getting dominated/impregnated by men. I don't know if that's true or not, and don't really care either way since it shouldn't dictate morals. But I still don't see how spiders have anything to do with it lol.
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:39 pm
It's not, lol.
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:40 pm
(January 30, 2018 at 5:38 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm pretty sure he was speaking only about the human species. See shells response . And no he did not specify humans .
Ah, I see. Well then he can clarify, but I highly doubt he was referring to spiders.
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January 30, 2018 at 5:40 pm
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(January 30, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Shell B Wrote: Evolution is evolution. It has the same function in every species. Observing the mechanism in any species helps you understand it as a concept, which beta clearly doesn't. I do wish that people who want to talk about evolution would try to actually understand it and maybe realize that it doesn't have anything to do with their religion.
I honestly have no opinion on the issue currently being discussed - that women have evolved to be weaker due to natural selection of getting dominated/impregnated by men. I don't know if that's true or not, and don't really care either way since it shouldn't dictate morals. But I still don't see how spiders have anything to do with it lol. It's not . It's total derp
(January 30, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:38 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: See shells response . And no he did not specify humans .
Ah, I see. Well then he can clarify, but I highly doubt he was referring to spiders.
He said generally females . Not human females all females . And then put it in an evolutionary context . The spider blows the presumption away .
(January 30, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:38 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: See shells response . And no he did not specify humans .
Ah, I see. Well then he can clarify, but I highly doubt he was referring to spiders. Sexual dimorphism is sexual gender . You can't pick and choose and then paint it as an overarching view of evolution .
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 30, 2018 at 5:44 pm
(January 30, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (January 30, 2018 at 5:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I honestly have no opinion on the issue currently being discussed - that women have evolved to be weaker due to natural selection of getting dominated/impregnated by men. I don't know if that's true or not, and don't really care either way since it shouldn't dictate morals. But I still don't see how spiders have anything to do with it lol. It's not . It's total derp
Probably not I suppose. From my understanding, women evolved weaker/smaller because they didn't needto be big and strong like the men. Because we made babies and stayed behind. It was the male's job to hunt for food and protect us and our babies.
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