Rebellion against god

[Astreja]

So basically you think that the only way that you will have a case is if I shut up?

OK.

Oh, I definitely have a "case."  The suggestion to lay off the preaching for 24 hours isn't for our benefit -- it's for yours.  You're presenting in a manner that's attracting negative attention to yourself and your beliefs, and I think it would do you good to just sit quietly and think about things from our point of view for a change.

[Amarok]

Indeed thus far banned has been an epic disappointment. 

[LadyForCamus]

@Banned

Can you think of anything that a person can’t believe in based on faith?

The term faith as it is generally used is not quite the same as what the Bible means.

People can imagine what they want, but Biblical faith is to know and trust the word of God. Jesus had faith in the scriptures. The reformation which gave the world relief from Papal oppression had faith in the scriptures.
It is a faith that doesn't rely on your imagination or will, but on the inspiration and knowledge of the scriptures.

The word, “faith” means what it means, regardless of what the Bible says.

faith
fāTH/
noun

1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms:
[color=#1967d2]trust, belief, confidence, conviction;More

2. Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
synonyms:
religion, church, sect, denomination, (religious) persuasion, (religious) belief, ideology, creed, teaching, doctrine
"she gave her life for her faith

If you’re using the word to mean something other than its standard, accepted definitions, then you are talking about something other than faith. Furthermore, the word, “imagination” is not a synonym of faith. I can imagine all sorts of things without believing any of them actually exist.  So, the obvious answer to my question is no.  There isn’t anything a person can’t believe in based on faith. You hold a confident belief, in the absence of evidence, that the scriptures are the word of god.  Similarly, I could hold a confident belief, in the absence of evidence, that an invisible, fire breathing dragon lives in my basement.  That being said, the obvious follow-up question here is this:  If you can believe literally anything based on faith, is faith a reliable pathway to truth?

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[Banned]

The term faith as it is generally used is not quite the same as what the Bible means...

The word, “faith” means what it means, regardless of what the Bible says.

That's right, when we read the Bible we are to take it at face value according to the rules of language, and secondly we are to understand the tone of a meaning according to it's setting.

It's OK to read the Bible from the initial meaning of faith, but sooner or later that will be upgraded.

"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"
Something comes from the word of God which has the power to secure the connection to God, which isn't found elsewhere.

It is more than a belief in something, because the Bible encourages people to "add knowledge" to faith.
It wouldn't be wise to add knowledge to a belief, especially if that belief is off, because eventually the structure will collapse, which is what many church people experience.

The faith that is produced by the word of God is the living presence of God in the life, through the Spirit. It is a lving connection with God, and not just a whim.

[drfuzzy]

The word, “faith” means what it means, regardless of what the Bible says.

That's right, when we read the Bible we are to take it at face value according to the rules of language, and secondly we are to understand the tone of a meaning according to it's setting.

It's OK to read the Bible from the initial meaning of faith, but sooner or later that will be upgraded.

"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"
Something comes from the word of God which has the power to secure the connection to God, which isn't found elsewhere.

It is more than a belief in something, because the Bible encourages people to "add knowledge" to faith.
It wouldn't be wise to add knowledge to a belief, especially if that belief is off, because eventually the structure will collapse, which is what many church people experience.

The faith that is produced by the word of God is the living presence of God in the life, through the Spirit. It is a lving connection with God, and not just a whim.

Most believers read the Bible with the mindset that the book was written by God.  Reading it without that mindset has a completely different result.  

I had to memorize a Bible passage every day as a child and had to recite it at dinner.  KJV, not that it's particularly relevant.
But about 10 years ago I started reading it with questions - analyzing it just as I would any other text.  That's what tipped me over the edge into atheism.

So I was immersed in the "word of god" from the time I was in the womb.  Funny that returning to it killed what little gullibility I had left.  You would think,
if there was anything special about that book at all, that this would be impossible.  Yet there are a lot of atheists out there who make the same claim - read the
Bible.  Hmm.  

You have to drink the kooky koolaid first and THEN read the bible.  If you get detoxed, it won't work anymore.

[Banned]

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"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"

Most believers read the Bible with the mindset that the book was written by God.  Reading it without that mindset has a completely different result.  

I had to memorize a Bible passage every day as a child and had to recite it at dinner.  KJV, not that it's particularly relevant.
But about 10 years ago I started reading it with questions - analyzing it just as I would any other text.  That's what tipped me over the edge into atheism.

So I was immersed in the "word of god" from the time I was in the womb.  Funny that returning to it killed what little gullibility I had left.  You would think,
if there was anything special about that book at all, that this would be impossible.  Yet there are a lot of atheists out there who make the same claim - read the
Bible.  Hmm.  

You have to drink the kooky koolaid first and THEN read the bible.  If you get detoxed, it won't work anymore.

The ten laws of God - to Love God and fellow creatures, what part didn't gel with you?
Because that's the summary of the Bible. That's what "hearing" is all about.

[Silver]

The ten laws of God - to Love God and fellow creatures, what part didn't gel with you?
Because that's the summary of the Bible.

Then you haven't read the book, just like any other christian.

Unless, of course, you're referring to the absurd metaphorical versus literal apologetic: "metaphorically, that's all the bible is about, but literally It's about more."

[Silver]

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[drfuzzy]

Most believers read the Bible with the mindset that the book was written by God.  Reading it without that mindset has a completely different result.  

I had to memorize a Bible passage every day as a child and had to recite it at dinner.  KJV, not that it's particularly relevant.
But about 10 years ago I started reading it with questions - analyzing it just as I would any other text.  That's what tipped me over the edge into atheism.

So I was immersed in the "word of god" from the time I was in the womb.  Funny that returning to it killed what little gullibility I had left.  You would think,
if there was anything special about that book at all, that this would be impossible.  Yet there are a lot of atheists out there who make the same claim - read the
Bible.  Hmm.  

You have to drink the kooky koolaid first and THEN read the bible.  If you get detoxed, it won't work anymore.

The ten laws of God - to Love God and fellow creatures, what part didn't gel with you?
Because that's the summary of the Bible. That's what "hearing" is all about.

Wow, ok -  'to love god", of course.  I mean, I think it would be cool to meet The Flash or Athena or a friendly vampire or a Hogwarts professor, but I don't LOVE them, because they're fictional.  Like god.  

Too easy, way too easy, give me a harder question.

[LastPoet]

This idiot proclaimed that the staff changed his name to banned, this idiot proclaimed we are all a bunch of socks, This idiot proclaims his original post here was edited by a mod.

Giving too much credence to him IMO. Also lel at the satan thinguie. it is just as real as your god.