High school shooting in Parkland FL

[Shell B]

I wish depression were so easy to cure. Why the hell would anyone think a job would cure depression? I would never have been depressed in my life if that were the case.

Where did I say that a job would cure depression? It certainly isn't going to hurt and one would at least be coping, and mingling and overcoming despite being depressed. Self pity and self isolation isn't going to cure depression either.

What you said was close enough. What do you know about depression? You been bummed out?

[Joods]

I don't have a problem with your free speech. It's your naive stupidassery.  What you need to help you with your depression is to get off your lazy ass and get a fucking job.

AT - this was too harsh and crossing a line here. Recommending someone get help with depression is one things, but do you really think it's necessary to tell Brian he's lazy and needs to get a "fucking job"? 

This isn't a perfect world. We all have to live in it. Stop being so mean. It's not Christ-like. 

I'll pray for you and hope that you can get closer to Jeebus.

[Amarok]

Well, I guess if you couldn't make it as a real Psychiatrist I guess a degree in psychology could be kind of a pretend thing. Although I think you need to see a clinical psychologist yourself. Your patients need a refund.

I've done more in the field of Clinical Psychology on pragmatic grounds in one career. And done more earn my credentials . Then most "Real Psychiatrist "(whatever the fuck that means) will do in six careers. I've travelled the world . I have worked for the Military , Immigrations ,The corrections system , And even the Police. And i sure as hell have done more then you shitstain . So take your ignorant assessment of my career and my mental stability and shove it in the same hole that man in the video's dick went .

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FYI don't waste my time by responding . I have wasted enough energy on you Ahole 

BYE !!!

[A Theist]

I don't have a problem with your free speech. It's your naive stupidassery.  What you need to help you with your depression is to get off your lazy ass and get a fucking job.

AT - this was too harsh and crossing a line here. Recommending someone get help with depression is one things, but do you really think it's necessary to tell Brian he's lazy and needs to get a "fucking job"? 

This isn't a perfect world. We all have to live in it. Stop being so mean. It's not Christ-like. 

I'll pray for you and hope that you can get closer to Jeebus.

Sorry Joods, but I don't think so. He crossed the line with me and I responded. He's a big boy. If he's going to give out a few of his own cheap shots then he's going to have to expect a response. But I don't think he'll lose sleep over anything I say.

No, I'm not Christ like. I won't argue that.
If I act in such a way that makes even an atheist pray then I'm probably in bad need of it. I'll take it. Thank you.

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Where did I say that a job would cure depression? It certainly isn't going to hurt and one would at least be coping, and mingling and overcoming despite being depressed. Self pity and self isolation isn't going to cure depression either.

What you said was close enough. What do you know about depression? You been bummed out?

Nope. Not even close.

A hell of a lot more than you think.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Depression is a legit brain based disorder. I thought it was bullshit until I got a chance to see it before my eyes and until it happened to someone I love very dearly. The way depression is often portrayed is in a sort of "being sad" state which it is not. It's a legit brain based disorder caused by hormonal imbalances as people age but I can imagine exceptions where it happens to younger people as well. That being said, you can't really 100% buy it when someone says they have depression unless you get a chance to actually observe them on an everyday basis, you can't really trust psychiatrists a 100% either because they're really just looking for business. If it's possible only go to doctors that have a history of charity work or doctors that work part time in 0 profit type of hospitals.

[Amarok]

That being said, you can't really 100% buy it when someone says they have depression unless you get a chance to actually observe them on an everyday basis, you can't really trust psychiatrists a 100% either because they're really just looking for business. If it's possible only to to doctors that has a history of charity works or doctors that work part time in a 0 profit type of hospitals.

Problem with observation is often due to the stigma of mental illness. A victim  will try their damndest to hide it so it can go undetected for years   . Clinical diagnosis is really the only way to really be sure . But the patient has to open up about it . Thou few would lie about such a thing considering the stigma that comes with it .

As for psychiatrists  your painting a rather broad brush . Many  heavily for profit psychiatrists or counsellors simply don't have the time  to do charity or non profit  work . And some only do non profit or charity because it looks good on a record . Plus i point out frequent lying during diagnosis a career death sentence. As your reputation for honesty means a lot .

[Brian37]

Where did I say that a job would cure depression? It certainly isn't going to hurt and one would at least be coping, and mingling and overcoming despite being depressed. Self pity and self isolation isn't going to cure depression either.

What you said was close enough. What do you know about depression? You been bummed out?

He has no clue what he is talking about. Depression runs in my biologically family. I cope the best but my older sister has never been able to hold a job and I am 51. Some in America would dump her in the streets because she isn't working. If it were not for her boyfriend or two sons she would be living in the streets. 

But that is the GOP policy, if you aren't working 80 hours a week, and if you cant afford it, die quickly.

[Amarok]

What you said was close enough. What do you know about depression? You been bummed out?

He has no clue what he is talking about. Depression runs in my biologically family. I cope the best but my older sister has never been able to hold a job and I am 51. Some in America would dump her in the streets because she isn't working. If it were not for her boyfriend or two sons she would be living in the streets. 

But that is the GOP policy, if you aren't working 80 hours a week, and if you cant afford it, die quickly.

He does not know shit . Like everything else he opines on . So your family has a history of depression . Have they diagnosed the problem ? ( Inherited chemical imbalance , Genetic brain defect , Bad Endocrine system etc etc etc )

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

That being said, you can't really 100% buy it when someone says they have depression unless you get a chance to actually observe them on an everyday basis, you can't really trust psychiatrists a 100% either because they're really just looking for business. If it's possible only to to doctors that has a history of charity works or doctors that work part time in a 0 profit type of hospitals.

A victim  will try their damndest to hide it so it can go undetected for years   . Clinical diagnosis is really the only way to really be sure . But the patient has to open up about it . Thou few would lie about such a thing considering the stigma that comes with it .

Have you had patients try hide it? Why would they go to the doctor if they didn't want to be treated? Maybe pressure from family or friends, I don't know. I personally don't think it's possible to hide depression, when someone has depression it's going to be obvious from their mannerisms, trying to hide it will only make it more obvious. Still, the way a patient is going to present themselves to a doctor will be different from how they are in their every day life so I can imagine the diagnosis process being a bit complicated.

As for psychiatrists  your painting a rather broad brush . Many  heavily for profit psychiatrists or counsellors simply don't have the time  to do charity or non profit  work . And some only do non profit or charity because it looks good on a record . Plus i point out frequent lying during diagnosis a career death sentence. As your reputation for honesty means a lot .

Not at all, maybe it's different in the states but here the doctors receive commission from medical stores and labs, so they prescribe meds that are from brands that cost the most while there are brands that give the same medicine in much cheaper rates and they give unnecessary lab tests because they're going to get lots of commission from them as well. Personally, I'd be very much vary of a soft diagnosis from a psychiatrist because at the end of the day they're doctors, they need patients, and not everybody in this world would have good intentions like you did, a hard diagnosis with test reports that clearly point to a problem will be much much more compelling. Also, in my experience a psychiatrist that interacts with a patient on a "oh there's nothing wrong with you, it's just a little hormonal imbalance caused by old age, everybody gets it! I'll just prescribe you two meds and you'll be fine in a week. Nothing to worry." is much more trustable than a doctor that tries to low key scare the patient into thinking there's a whole lot of complications and prescribes 15 unnecessary meds, in my experience at least those types tend to be grade A scammers trying to loot the patient.

[Amarok]

A victim  will try their damndest to hide it so it can go undetected for years   . Clinical diagnosis is really the only way to really be sure . But the patient has to open up about it . Thou few would  lie about such a thing considering the stigma that comes with it .

Have you had patients try hide it? Why would they go to the doctor if they didn't want to be treated? Maybe pressure from family or friends, I don't know. I personally don't think it's possible to hide depression, when someone has depression it's going to be obvious from their mannerisms, trying to hide it will only make it more obvious. Still, the way a patient is going to present themselves to a doctor will be different from how they are in their every day life so I can imagine the diagnosis process being a bit complicated.

As for psychiatrists  your painting a rather broad brush . Many  heavily for profit psychiatrists or counsellors simply don't have the time  to do charity or non profit  work . And some only do non profit or charity because it looks good on a record . Plus i point out frequent lying during diagnosis a career death sentence. As your reputation for honesty means a lot .

Not at all, maybe it's different in the states but here the doctors receive commission from medical stores and labs, so they prescribe meds that are from brands that cost the most while there are brands that give the same medicine in much cheaper rates and they give unnecessary lab tests because they're going to get lots of commission from them as well. Personally, I'd be very much vary of a soft diagnosis from a psychiatrist because at the end of the day they're doctors, they need patients, and not everybody in this world would have good intentions like you did, a hard diagnosis with test reports that clearly point to a problem will be much much more compelling. Also, in my experience a psychiatrist that interacts with a patient on a "oh there's nothing wrong with you, it's just a little hormonal imbalance caused by old age, everybody gets it! I'll just prescribe you two meds and you'll be fine in a week. Nothing to worry." is much more trustable than a doctor that tries to low key scare the patient into thinking there's a whole lot of complications and prescribes 15 unnecessary meds, in my experience at least those types tend to be grade A scammers trying to loot the patient.

1. Yes i have had patients that have hiding their  depression for  decades  only to have a psychotic breakdown or try  commit suicide or try and kill someone else  . People with depression can seem happy , outgoing , Fun , And  successful . But inside their depression is eating them up inside and they will snap . The scars inside are hard to see .

2. I'm sorry what your saying is not only false . It's insulting to all the thousands of my colleagues . Who work themselves  to death . Sacrifice, family, happiness, And sometimes even their own sanity to help people . People your trying to paint profiteering monsters trying to harm our patients  fill pockets . Violating the most sacred trust in our profession. Frankly i won't bother dignifying this statement with a point by point rebuttal .