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Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
#31
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
"Worse", "vulgar", and "shameful" are subjective terms. I could just as easily say "More realistic," "less repressive," and "nuanced."

(February 23, 2018 at 4:07 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote:
(February 23, 2018 at 3:48 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Also, most popular games are now multiplayer.  Not just in terms of some kid vs. other anonymous kids, but in team play.  The most popular games - CoD, PUBG, Overwatch, Fortnite, and the various MOBAs - require coordination to play at anything above scrub level.  They're the opposite of socially isolating.

Lol very true. We have Wii Parties where we drink and play Wii games. While Super Smash Bros is cute it can get vicious lol. Mario Kart can get pretty violent as well. :p

My family and I have spent far too much time on Rock Band. Half the fun is coming up with double-entendre band and character names.

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Harry Areola bassist/guitar player of Helmut Purple and the Yogurt Slingers
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#32
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
(February 23, 2018 at 3:41 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(February 23, 2018 at 3:06 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I actually do believe that the level of violence depicted in media, including video games, is a likely contributing cause. I can barely watch television shows anymore because it's so gruesome. I've always thought there was value in the old Hayes code but what finally tipped the scale for me was watching "The Punisher". Never before have I seen such a positive portrayal of brutal and grisly violence. Plus, the main character is a glorified loner outcast fighting his tragic past. These types of 'heroes' perfectly parallel the personal lives of these school shooters - bullied, ostracized by their peers, misunderstood, alone, and ready to fight the "system" that traumatized them. What sucks is that the only other option is "Father Brown" which is good but gets old after a while. As for video games, its not so much that they are graphic; but rather that they socially isolate players. They aren't getting groups together to play D&D, war games, bowling, or even paintball.

Its funny that every new form of media has been used to excuse deeper societal ills. It happened with the easy availability of printed books. I kid you not, the same arguments you just presented were leveled at the guttenburg press.
And Socrates which is why supposedly killed him.Puritans tried to ban shakespeare.

So if we ban all violent video games and killing does not stop  what next ? Are we going to ban violent books . Well i could think of a few that would need to go first

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#33
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
I'm not touching that - I've done my shift for today...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#34
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
How about that bible, and the kerrang? They're chock-full of sex and violence.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#35
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
(February 23, 2018 at 4:28 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: And Socrates which is why supposedly killed him.

Alcibiades was a very naughty boy.  Big Grin
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RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
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Clearly this will lead to spree of homicidal baking and cannibalism and mass decapitations.
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#37
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
(February 23, 2018 at 4:18 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: My family and I have spent far too much time on Rock Band.  Half the fun is coming up with double-entendre band and character names.

Signed,
Harry Areola bassist/guitar player of Helmut Purple and the Yogurt Slingers

My heavy metal band would be Affordable Coffin...and our first hit would be Botched Vasectomy.
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#38
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
As I said before, I used to be in a band called Fat Bastards. Yeah, we went through a stage.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#39
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
(February 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: That's true about studies. And I remember lots of concern about this one arcade game where you drove around in a graveyard running over zombies. Similarly, lots of people play video games without becoming social degenerates. Then again then are lots of responsible gun owners too and there's no evidence that simply owning a gun causes you to become violent. That's the difference between symptoms and causes.

The difference between that is video games in the hands of the unstable don't get people killed. Guns in the hands of the unstable do get people killed.
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#40
RE: Trump shifts blame to violent video games, movies in gun violence discussion
If children aren't encouraged to be violent at home how will they ever become mean enough to go to foreign lands and kill the natives for the desires of the 1%'ers?
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