Disproving the christian (and muslim) god

[Huggy Bear]

If you want to get technical, then the food you eat is in the process of decaying, but at what point is it considered no longer fit to eat?


http://www.aftermath.com/content/human-decomposition

Stage One: Autolysis

The first stage of human decomposition is called autolysis, or self-digestion, and begins immediately after death. As soon as blood circulation and respiration stop, the body has no way of getting oxygen or removing wastes. Excess carbon dioxide causes an acidic environment, causing membranes in cells to rupture. The membranes release enzymes that begin eating the cells from the inside out.

So using your definition, are you saying that cases of people being confirmed as clinically dead (which means no blood circulation an not breathing) and successfully resuscitated, were in the process of self digestion? There is a case of a person being clinically dead for 17 hours, why no lasting effects of autolysis?

[chimp3]

Stage One: Autolysis

The first stage of human decomposition is called autolysis, or self-digestion, and begins immediately after death. As soon as blood circulation and respiration stop, the body has no way of getting oxygen or removing wastes. Excess carbon dioxide causes an acidic environment, causing membranes in cells to rupture. The membranes release enzymes that begin eating the cells from the inside out.

So using your definition, are you saying that cases of people being confirmed as clinically dead (which means no blood circulation an not breathing) and successfully resuscitated, were in the process of self digestion? There is a case of a person being clinically dead for 17 hours, why no lasting effects of autolysis?

I quoted from the same website you linked to.

[Nay_Sayer]

It's of no real matter, They all steal from the gospel of FSM

[Huggy Bear]

Since you guys lost the Odin argument (evidence overwhelmingly points to Odin being a derivative of Babylonian mythology), Are we ready to continue with this argument?

So far I haven't seen anyone submit evidence against the true God.

[Silver]

Willfull ignorance assuredly allows for adherence to ridiculous religious beliefs.

[Fake Messiah]

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. - Isaiah 7:14

Talk about being desperate. Not only was he not called Immanuel but this has been proven as the Hebrew "almah" (actually meaning "young woman") word wrongly translated into "virgin". The Hebrew language has a specific word (bethulah) for "virgin" but that is not used here.
Not only that but actual Christians admit this mistake and have actually corrected the translation, like in The Revised Standard Version (RSV)

https://www.biblestudytools.com/rsv/isaiah/7-14.html

as well as some other Bibles


But what am I wasting my time on fanatics, he's gonna believe what he wants to believe no matter what.

[Huggy Bear]

Talk about being desperate. Not only was he not called Immanuel but this has been proven as the Hebrew "almah" (actually meaning "young woman") word wrongly translated into "virgin". The Hebrew language has a specific word (bethulah) for "virgin" but that is not used here.
Not only that but actual Christians admit this mistake and have actually corrected the translation, like in The Revised Standard Version (RSV)

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https://www.biblestudytools.com/rsv/isaiah/7-14.html

as well as some other Bibles

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But what am I wasting my time on fanatics, he's gonna believe what he wants to believe no matter what.

*emphasis mine*
Here we go...
Why do you bible rookies always feel you can challenge me?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint

Seventy-two Jewish scholars were asked by the Greek King of Egypt Ptolemy II Philadelphus to translate the Torah from Biblical Hebrew into Greek, for inclusion in the Library of Alexandria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almah

The Septuagint version of the Old Testament renders both Hebrew words almah and betulah as the same Greek word parthenos.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Parthenos

From Ancient Greek παρθένος (parthénos, “maiden”).

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/maiden

maiden
1. a girl or young unmarried woman; maid.

A young unmarried Jewish girl WAS a virgin... Must I explain the Levitical laws to you?

Further more God says he would give a sign, a woman having a baby in and of itself is not a sign.

[GrandizerII]

A young unmarried Jewish girl WAS a virgin... Must I explain the Levitical laws to you?

But the verse doesn't say "virgin" in the original translation, is the point F_M is making. That being a young maiden implies being a virgin doesn't mean the verse is emphasizing that implication.

Further more God says he would give a sign, a woman having a baby in and of itself is not a sign.

Then maybe you should read the following verses as well, Huggy. Try not to be too selective.

Here's the verse of interest along with the following verses for your reading pleasure:

14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[c] a sign: The virgin[d] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[e] will call him Immanuel.[f] 15 He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, 16 for before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. 17 The Lord will bring on you and on your people and on the house of your father a time unlike any since Ephraim broke away from Judah—he will bring the king of Assyria.”

[I_am_not_mafia]

Since you guys lost the God (who is also Jesus) argument (evidence overwhelmingly points to Jesus being a derivative of Babylonian mythology), Are we ready to continue with this argument?

Fixed for you.

[Huggy Bear]

No Need to fix it, I'm saying is I'll address that issue once it's clear we are past the whole Odin debacle.