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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 9:42 am
The religious don't know why they believe silly shit..a philosopher can at least explain why he believes silly shit. 
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 10:29 am
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 10:39 am
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The first thing that comes to mind in wich philosophy plays an important role it's politics , there isn't much that science can do to improve it at the moment. You could say that historians can do a proper analysis of the past in order to see were we did wrong and go for there but you will still need a philosopher to draw conclusions and maybe think of a better system .
It can be argued that psychology can be used to improve politics wich is recognized as a science( but is it ?).Psychology may have parted away from philosophy but that doesn't mean it is a well established field, more like 50 - 50 , maybe more for philosophy , even if you take into account neuroscience the lines are stil blury. The field isn't unified, it is hard to draw conclusions from the results of a research, it does research like "10 things that might make you a dick-slaper" when it hasn't even covered the basics.
Mainly when it comes to the human mind( brain) and human interaction philosophy still plays a very important part.
Edit: It is so unstable that Robert Epstein wich has a PhD in psychology after some research sayed that we may all be bisexual ,a thing that Freud sayed that 100 years ago and it was refuted ,may come in to play again.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 11:02 am
(March 20, 2018 at 7:01 am)Mathilda Wrote: I have often ranted about philosophy in the past, more so about people who think that they are doing philosophy because they string along some arbitrary premises to reach a specific conclusion without ever applying it to the real world.
What makes something 'real'?
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 11:21 am
I see philosophy, best, as providing an investigation into different possibilities and ideas that may not have been considered or are not currently testable. It can be a refined consideration of what we mean by various concepts and an attempt to makes sense of the varied uses of words. By presenting thought experiments, it helps us to hone our intuitions and our ideas.
But, at worst, philosophy becomes dogmatic and insists that a particular viewpoint is the *only* viewpoint. In almost every case where that has happened, philosophy has been wrong. For example, Kant considered Euclidean geometry to be a priori. We know that is nowhere close to being the case.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm
One could say that philosophy is the illusion of knowledge.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 12:14 pm
It's the ground floor in the funhouse...at least, and everything contained therein may not be entirely true but you'll have no way of telling up from down once you're in it....lol.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 12:16 pm
I think philosophy was useful in antiquity, and it is still important to know as far as history, but scientific method has surpassed it.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 12:27 pm
(March 20, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think philosophy was useful in antiquity, and it is still important to know as far as history, but scientific method has surpassed it.
Not completely true. For example, ethics is a subject that is still primarily philosophical. And it is a useful and important subject.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
March 20, 2018 at 12:33 pm
(March 20, 2018 at 12:27 pm)polymath257 Wrote: (March 20, 2018 at 12:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think philosophy was useful in antiquity, and it is still important to know as far as history, but scientific method has surpassed it.
Not completely true. For example, ethics is a subject that is still primarily philosophical. And it is a useful and important subject.
In what context? As far as social interaction outside a lab sure, but as far as finding answers to scientific fact, observation, data collecting, control groups and peer review are still the top tool.
Psychology, psychiatry and neurology are the best way to study how humans behave.
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