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Jesus : The Early years
#91
RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 1:23 am)Godscreated Wrote:  

 

(March 24, 2018 at 6:59 am)chimp3 Wrote: So, Mary told Luke this? :

 "In the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David"

She was the eyewitness?

 Who do you think Gabriel was sent to, hint, Mary and who do you think Elizabeth was, hint, Mary's aunt. Come on man surely you can do better than this, read all the gospel first.

GC
I have read the gospels and I was not impressed. Especially this story. A pregnant teenage girl in iron age Palestine states she is a virgin and is pregnant with god's son. Come on now! If a teenage girl said that today, only the most gullible would believe it. Why should any one believe this now?
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#92
RE: Jesus : The Early years
What did God need with a womb anyhow ??

He already had the technique of blowing life into a pile of sculpted mud with His mighty nostrils and it worked fine.

Just confusing as all get out to change procedures. Tried and true was definitely the way to go. Think how that would have pared down the schism list over the centuries !!!
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#93
RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 11:12 am)vorlon13 Wrote: What did God need with a womb anyhow ??

He already had the technique of blowing life into a pile of sculpted mud with His mighty nostrils and it worked fine.

Just confusing as all get out to change procedures.  Tried and true was definitely the way to go.  Think how that would have pared down the schism list over the centuries !!!

You fail to note God's deteriorating skill set. He created the Universe from nothing, yeah. But then he needed clay to make a human. And to make a second one he requisitioned some parts from the first one. THEN, to get more he had the two humans fuck like bunnies. 

Clearly the old guy is in decline and that's why we never see him any more.
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#94
RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 2:33 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 1:23 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I can't help you deny the truth even when you post it. I making nothing up it is what it is and you can't change it.

GC

Except you really are making stuff up. I can't help that you desperately need to be right, no matter what. This is a pride issue that you're struggling with, but unfortunately for you, you really are misinterpreting the passage.

An atheist telling a Christian he's misinterpreting scripture, now that's a laugh. No pride to it, it's the truth and you are blind to God's truth. So no, I'm not making things up the verses read plain and simple.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#95
RE: Jesus : The Early years
hmmmm . . . .
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#96
RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 8:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 2:33 am)Grandizer Wrote: Except you really are making stuff up. I can't help that you desperately need to be right, no matter what. This is a pride issue that you're struggling with, but unfortunately for you, you really are misinterpreting the passage.

An atheist telling a Christian he's misinterpreting scripture, now that's a laugh. No pride to it, it's the truth and you are blind to God's truth. So no, I'm not making things up the verses read plain and simple.

GC
Then why  the schisms, tortures, murders, wars, sectarianism, if it reads plain and simple?
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#97
RE: Jesus : The Early years
God says He is not the author of confusion.

Some how, He's not attracting the right kind of followers, unfortunately.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#98
RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 8:47 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 1:23 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Who do you think Gabriel was sent to, hint, Mary and who do you think Elizabeth was, hint, Mary's aunt. Come on man surely you can do better than this, read all the gospel first.

GC
I have read the gospels and I was not impressed. Especially this story. A pregnant teenage girl in iron age Palestine states she is a virgin and is pregnant with god's son. Come on now! If a teenage girl said that today, only the most gullible would believe it. Why should any one believe this now?

 really you have read the Gospels, you gave no sign of that in your previous post. In the days of Jesus and even before women married as teenagers. Most parents were poor and a girl was a burden financially and were used to gain financially from the groom, so you see teenage girls were marrying men usually in their twenties. These girls were much more mature than the silly girls of today, they worked from the time they were small till the time they left home. Why would Mary lie about this and how could she have known Jesus would have been such a force in that day if she was concocting a lie.

GC

(March 25, 2018 at 8:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote: An atheist telling a Christian he's misinterpreting scripture, now that's a laugh. No pride to it, it's the truth and you are blind to God's truth. So no, I'm not making things up the verses read plain and simple.

GC
Then why  the schisms, tortures, murders, wars, sectarianism, if it reads plain and simple?

The verses say nothing about any of those things, where is your brain.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#99
RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 9:07 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The verses say nothing about any of those things, where is your brain.

GC

Scripture doesn't state a lot where religious people inject personal opinion.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Jesus : The Early years
(March 25, 2018 at 8:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 25, 2018 at 8:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote: An atheist telling a Christian he's misinterpreting scripture, now that's a laugh. No pride to it, it's the truth and you are blind to God's truth. So no, I'm not making things up the verses read plain and simple.

GC
Then why  the schisms, tortures, murders, wars, sectarianism, if it reads plain and simple?


How do we process zingers like this ??

Mark 14:22-25 (KJV)
22 And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.
23 And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

-and-

Luke 22:17-20 (KJV)
17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.


No way to know what the CORRECT order of communion is, is there ??

So, do it both ways every time, or guess one way and never ever change ??
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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