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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 2:16 pm
I'm afraid that you can't transform reason into goddisms, Mystic. It's beyond your ability to do so.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 2:36 pm
(April 3, 2018 at 6:24 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm saying in a ideal world, arguments lead to truth. But in this chaotic world we live in, we have to search a means to know the truth, that is not through arguments. Because arguments has not persuaded humans whether they should or shouldn't.
There is a way to sheer honesty certainty in what you know. And philosophers telling you things are axioms that are self-evident is not one of them.
As you can see, this argument won't persuade anyone itself as well.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. Percentage-wise, jet liners are MUCH safer than hot air balloons.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 2:40 pm
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(April 3, 2018 at 2:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 6:24 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm saying in a ideal world, arguments lead to truth. But in this chaotic world we live in, we have to search a means to know the truth, that is not through arguments. Because arguments has not persuaded humans whether they should or shouldn't.
There is a way to sheer honesty certainty in what you know. And philosophers telling you things are axioms that are self-evident is not one of them.
As you can see, this argument won't persuade anyone itself as well.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. Percentage-wise, jet liners are MUCH safer than hot air balloons.
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(April 3, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'm afraid that you can't transform reason into goddisms, Mystic. It's beyond your ability to do so.
Yeah but he's kind of a one trick pony
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 3:03 pm
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(April 3, 2018 at 2:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is no reason not to reason, but it's about distinguishing proper ways and non-proper ways.
Aristotle worked most of the fundamentals out thousands of years ago, and way before the Quran was written.
Aristotle was wrong about a lot of things, but the fundamentals of logic he spelled out are absolutely foundational.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 3:54 pm
(April 3, 2018 at 3:03 pm)Hammy Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 2:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is no reason not to reason, but it's about distinguishing proper ways and non-proper ways.
Aristotle worked most of the fundamentals out thousands of years ago, and way before the Quran was written.
Aristotle was wrong about a lot of things, but the fundamentals of logic he spelled out are absolutely foundational.
Yeah, get with the times, MK.
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 4:15 pm
Quote:There is no reason not to reason, but it's about distinguishing proper ways and non-proper ways.
Which neither you nor the primitive warlords you venerate are very good at
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RE: The most horrifying journey, this is what doubting 'everything' does.
April 3, 2018 at 4:35 pm
I don't think anyone goes through life doubting everything.
But it is very healthy to QUESTION everything.
If something is true you can likely investigate it yourself, and, likely, do it yourself.*
If it's untrue you will likely have people who will claim it's true but will tell you that you'll just have to take their word for it.**
* Don't do this with medical procedures. Surgery on random people is actively discouraged by pesky laws.***
** Examples: "Alternative medicine", UFO claims, psychics, religion.
*** I got off on a technicality.
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