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Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
Too bad he didn't think of that before boinking Stormy.
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#12
RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
A complication is that a bunch of these kids aren't even teens yet when they start. I think a different message probably needs to be constructed for 10-14 year olds than the "Hey, if you have sex, make sure to use a condom" that is reasonable enough for 15-17 year olds.
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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
(April 6, 2018 at 12:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(April 6, 2018 at 12:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd rather teenage kids not have sex with each other at all. But if they do, I'd rather them use a condom than get pregnant and possibly have an abortion.

Sure, and I'd rather teenage kids drive perfectly safely at all times, but I'm still going to give them seat belts and airbags.

Yeah, you can't really stop kids from having sex if that's what they want to do. We can encourage them in the abstinence direction and explain why it's the better option and try to make a positive influence... But at the end of the day, the choice to hold off on sex has to come from within. I try not to forget what it's like to be a teenager.

(April 6, 2018 at 12:44 pm)wallym Wrote: A complication is that a bunch of these kids aren't even teens yet when they start. I think a different message probably needs to be constructed for 10-14 year olds than the "Hey, if you have sex, make sure to use a condom" that is reasonable enough for 15-17 year olds.

Ugh. I cannot even fathom 10 year olds having sex. That is so disturbing.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
(April 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(April 6, 2018 at 12:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Sure, and I'd rather teenage kids drive perfectly safely at all times, but I'm still going to give them seat belts and airbags.

Yeah, you can't really stop kids from having sex if that's what they want to do. We can encourage them in the abstinence direction and explain why it's the better option and try to make a positive influence... But at the end of the day, the choice to hold off on sex has to come from within. I try not to forget what it's like to be a teenager.

Agreed.  Teens have been experimenting with sex for as long as there have been teens. Everyone knows this, so the most responsible thing to do is give them access to methods/products that helps them do it as safe as possible, if they choose to.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
(April 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(April 6, 2018 at 12:33 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Sure, and I'd rather teenage kids drive perfectly safely at all times, but I'm still going to give them seat belts and airbags.

Yeah, you can't really stop kids from having sex if that's what they want to do. We can encourage them in the abstinence direction and explain why it's the better option and try to make a positive influence... But at the end of the day, the choice to hold off on sex has to come from within. I try not to forget what it's like to be a teenager.

(April 6, 2018 at 12:44 pm)wallym Wrote: A complication is that a bunch of these kids aren't even teens yet when they start.  I think a different message probably needs to be constructed for 10-14 year olds than the "Hey, if you have sex, make sure to use a condom" that is reasonable enough for 15-17 year olds.

Ugh. I cannot even fathom 10 year olds having sex. That is so disturbing.
I think the idea is to catch them before they start.



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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
I don't know, from my point of view abstinanence is the main factor that contributes to men prejudince against women who had multiple parteners.
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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
If America wants to cut down teen pregnancies and STDs that actually works . Look no further than the Netherlands and their sex ED policies and of course actual academic work on the subject both which contradict Abstinence . And you know work ... Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
(April 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ugh. I cannot even fathom 10 year olds having sex. That is so disturbing.

At ten you don't have sexual desire, its just playing and at most an enfatuation. My sister that is a psychologist explained me that at family day once. She surely has her schools about it, I guess. Even if 2 ten year olds found themselves naked in private, most surely penetration wouldn't happen.

Assuming a boy position, that development on sexuality happens a little later than girls, ie, the point we become hornydogs, so getting the stuff to work for a boy should be hard.

Dad once, drunk as fuck, took me to the hookers when I was 11, she took me to the bedroom, undressed, nothin. blowed my willy, nope. lets just cuddle. Felt like shit. Couldn't get it to work, it has a mind of its own.

Second time, aged 17, was with a girl my age, with enough experience to break me from the previous episode. It worked! It has a mind of its own Big Grin

I sometimes wonder how porn actors can do it by will. I need atmosphere.
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(April 6, 2018 at 1:13 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Dad once, drunk as fuck, took me to the hookers when I was 11, she took me to the bedroom, undressed, nothin. blowed my willy, nope. lets just cuddle.

Holy shit, that is FUCKED UP on so many levels. I am so sorry you went through that. Sad
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Trump Adminstration Pushes Abstinence Only Sex Education
(April 6, 2018 at 12:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(April 6, 2018 at 11:51 am)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: I'm sure he's practiced what he preaches-during his refractory period maybe.

Abstinence-only education making a comeback under Trump

Abstinence-only education — encouraging adolescents to wait until marriage for sex — is making a comeback under President Trump.
In a marked departure from the previous administration, conservatives at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) are putting an emphasis on abstinence to reduce teen pregnancy rates.



“We definitely are seeing a shift,” said Kelly Marcum, a government affairs legislative assistant at the Family Research Council in Washington, which supports abstinence-only education.
“We’re really excited to see that the administration is giving some tools back to us to keep pushing that fight.”
So far, the administration has encouraged organizations applying for Title X federal family planning funds to include in their programs a “meaningful emphasis” on “the benefits of avoiding sex” when communicating with adolescents and to use programs that don’t “normalize sexual risk behaviors.”
The Trump administration also plans to release its first report early this summer as part of a $10 million research project looking at ways to improve sex education programs, with a focus on the impact of “sexual delay.”

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/377...nder-trump

Well, hey!  At least they’re implementing an approach to sex education that has been demonstrated to not work, am I right?!  

*face palm*
Well, if the emphasis had been on condoms and birth control in '79 or '80, I might not be here, so there's that lol
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