Human Reason and Christian Denominations

[Angrboda]

[Jackie]

There is diversity and differing opinions within Christianity just as there is everywhere else.

Yes, which proves my point. 

Our species ability to do good and be non violent isn't in any label. There is not one nation friend or foe alike that does not have hospitals or prisons.

I think Christians and Jews and Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists ARE very capable of compassion, empathy and non violence.

I just don't agree with where religious people think the origins of our behaviors come from.

[The Valkyrie]

Teh Gayz are bad.

So is everyone else according to Christian propaganda.

[vulcanlogician]

[Godscreated]

Both Jesus and Paul were predicting imminent  heaven on earth in the form of socialist equality.  Jesus preached that to be part of that, one should give everything away and begin to act like that kingdom where already there. You have to twist pretty hard to avoid believing Jesus was wrong about the timing, if nothing else.  But how you can reconcile the Gospels with capitalism is beyond me.  As I understand it, the line is Jesus was preaching what you had to have done to survive the kingdom of God  if he didn't die for their sins.  Oddly, he failed to mention that last bit.  Nor did he say some of you standing here won't taste death before the coming of the kingdom of God, unless I'm  crucified in which case the kingdom of God will just mean that believers will be resurrected. He said the former but not the later.

When Paul said, better to marry than burn it was not an endorcement.  If you can read The Gospels and Paul's letters and argue heterosexual marriage is the bed rock of Christian society, you have already done so much rationalizing that a little more here and there is hardly surprising.

Here's a fine example of misinterpretation of the scriptures what denomination do you belong to. You accuse Christians of misrepresenting god's word and to date you haven't gotten any of of right. 

GC

[The Grand Nudger]

Delicious irony.........................

[Jenny A]

Both Jesus and Paul were predicting imminent  heaven on earth in the form of socialist equality.  Jesus preached that to be part of that, one should give everything away and begin to act like that kingdom where already there. You have to twist pretty hard to avoid believing Jesus was wrong about the timing, if nothing else.  But how you can reconcile the Gospels with capitalism is beyond me.  As I understand it, the line is Jesus was preaching what you had to have done to survive the kingdom of God  if he didn't die for their sins.  Oddly, he failed to mention that last bit.  Nor did he say some of you standing here won't taste death before the coming of the kingdom of God, unless I'm  crucified in which case the kingdom of God will just mean that believers will be resurrected. He said the former but not the later.

When Paul said, better to marry than burn it was not an endorcement.  If you can read The Gospels and Paul's letters and argue heterosexual marriage is the bed rock of Christian society, you have already done so much rationalizing that a little more here and there is hardly surprising.

Here's a fine example of misinterpretation of the scriptures what denomination do you belong to. You accuse Christians of misrepresenting god's word and to date you haven't gotten any of of right. 

GC

What I haven't gotten right is Christian theology.

The denomination I was raised in is irrelevant. No denomination I know of grapples with the fact that Jesus preached socialism and an immediate new order on earth. Unless you twist his words to hell, that is what he was, an apocalyptic rabbi speaking to the Jews about a kingdom earth to be ruled by the 12 disciples (apparently Judas' betrayal had yet to occur to him at time he made that promise).

Christians should call themselves Paulites, because they sure don't follow Jesus. Christian theology is based on Paul, at the expense of the Gospels. But if you choose Paul, just remember that marriage is just barely more honorable than adultery. Better to marry than burn.

[Minimalist]

G-C can twist anything to get to his republicunt jesus.

[robvalue]

Yup, when someone says to me, "I'm a Christian", I assume nothing more than they call themselves a Christian. Their religious beliefs could be literally anything, and I'm not going to correct them.

[Godscreated]

Here's a fine example of misinterpretation of the scriptures what denomination do you belong to. You accuse Christians of misrepresenting god's word and to date you haven't gotten any of of right. 

GC

What I haven't gotten right is Christian theology.  

The denomination I was raised in is irrelevant.  No denomination I know of grapples with the fact that Jesus preached socialism and an immediate new order on earth.  Unless you twist his words to hell, that is what he was, an apocalyptic rabbi speaking to the Jews about a kingdom earth to be ruled by the 12 disciples (apparently Judas' betrayal had yet to occur to him at time he made that promise).

Christians should call themselves Paulites, because they sure don't follow Jesus. Christian theology is based on Paul, at the expense of the Gospels. But if you choose Paul, just remember that marriage is just barely more honorable than adultery. Better to marry than burn.

You still have it all wrong, the kingdom you speak of is the church and the disciples were to lead out in building Christ's bride. The socialism you speak of is Jesus telling us to help the needy, that isn't socialism by any stretch of the imagination. Jesus was not a rabbi even though some called Him by that title. Jesus never was recorded speaking directly to Judas except for the betrayal. Paul's teachings do not contradict what Jesus taught because Paul's teachings came directly from Jesus. Paul wasn't against marriage he taught that one did not necessarily need to be married if marriage wouldn't suit him, Paul was teaching devotion to Christ first the same thing Jesus taught. I'm a Southern Baptist and all parts of the Bible are just as important as any other. You have preached this same ol' message for a while now and it is as unworthy as it was the first time you brought it up. You must have left the church because this is all you got from the scriptures, this isn't the way to a Christian life, it's you who twist scriptures not the majority of Christians and as for you ever and I mean ever being a Christian in the past that was impossible.

GC

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Yup, when someone says to me, "I'm a Christian", I assume nothing more than they call themselves a Christian. Their religious beliefs could be literally anything, and I'm not going to correct them.

You wouldn't have a foot to stand on, you've shown that over the time you've been here.

GC

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G-C can twist anything to get to his republicunt jesus.

I'll have you know I support any democrat that will do for this nation what is important for this country and yes he must be a Christian. You need to get your head out of the sand in that sand box you play in and learn to spell Jesus and republican. Eyes full of sand tend to miss lead people Minny don't you know that.

GC