Skeptics might be jumping to conclusions

[Transcended Dimensions]

I am suggesting that people might be close minded and jumping to conclusions.  As for laziness, a person might have an interest in a particular thing such as video games, but has no interest in researching about the technical aspects of video games and video game systems.  The person just wants to play the video games without doing the research.  I have an interest in the idea of the afterlife because I would really want the eternal blissful afterlife of my dreams to exist.  But I have no interest in doing the research.  Neither can I comprehend the research.  It would be no different than how an average person having fun playing video games cannot comprehend the technical research in regards to video games and video game systems.

Then don't complain that perhaps nobody knows enough to construct video games.

If you want to understand, you have to put in the effort. If you don't want to put in the effort, you don't have the right to criticize the conclusions of those that do.

You want warm fuzzies without thought. OK. Don't expect anyone else to listen to your speculations then.

I think that's a flawed analogy you have used in regards to the paranormal.  How does knowing how to construct video games analogous with knowing that consciousness is reduced to the brain and that, once the brain dies, we are gone with it?

[haig]

Just read a review by CSI of a book by Dean Radin, and as expected, the author mirepresents and cherry picks data to change results. Soooooo zero credibility.

Yeah, there's an unbiased source....(don't think so.) Any group with skeptical in their name can pretty much be counted on to defend the brand.

Did you actually read the review? Very well done. Critical and provides supporting evidence. But then you just were jumping to a conclusion.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Yeah, there's an unbiased source....(don't think so.) Any group with skeptical in their name can pretty much be counted on to defend the brand.

Did you actually read the review? Very well done. Critical and provides supporting evidence. But then you just were jumping to a conclusion.

No one ever erected a statue to a skeptic. I read Radin's research and made up my own mind. I don't read movie reviews either.

[KevinM1]

The actual quote is "no one ever erected a statue of a critic."

[The Grand Nudger]

I guess we're just not as into graven images as some?

[KevinM1]

There's that

But the actual quote is about art, and that it's far harder to create art than it is to criticize what's produced.  That the very endeavor of artistic expression, regardless of result, has meaning beyond whatever the critic may see.

Of course, that means that the quote has absolutely zero meaning in the context of this thread, which is about whether or not paranormal research (a (pseudo?) scientific endeavor) has merit or is treated fairly.  Science isn't about expression, but examination.  And both results and the methods used to obtain them should be criticized.  That's the entire point of peer review and repeated experimentation.

So, ultimately, it's Wooters trying and failing (yet again) at being scathingly witty towards skeptics.

[Whateverist]

[Transcended Dimensions]

I will just say one last thing here that is on my mind. That is, I do not know when to decide something whether it be looking into the paranormal and skeptical research or looking into anything else. I just remain undecided. I can look into all the research and into all the things the skeptics have to say. But I will never be able to decide since I will always have it in my mind that perhaps it's not time to make that decision and that there is much more to keep an open mind to and look into.

[The Grand Nudger]

I contend that this isn't on your mind, at all..chiefly because you don't have one.  I guess you can't know, for sure...just like you'll never know whether or not you'll be able to decide...a subject in which we are also in disagreement.

I can see why having a "discussion" this way is so much fun.
(I contend that you can't, just because I can..for completeness)

[Simon Moon]

I will just say one last thing here that is on my mind. That is, I do not know when to decide something whether it be looking into the paranormal and skeptical research or looking into anything else. I just remain undecided. I can look into all the research and into all the things the skeptics have to say. But I will never be able to decide since I will always have it in my mind that perhaps it's not time to make that decision and that there is much more to keep an open mind to and look into.

This pretty much sums up your complete misunderstanding of what the skeptical position is.

Here's how it works.

People claim paranormal phenomena exists. Skeptics are unconvinced that those positing a paranormal phenomena exists, have not met their burden of proof.

The skeptical position is not that the paranormal does not exist, the skeptical position is that the paranormal has not been confirmed to exist.