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Best Theistic Arguments
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I am going to debate a theist over the existence of god soon. What are the best arguments you ever heard from theists? Any tips on what topic to avoid in such an discussion?
Thanks in advance
“What is it you most dislike? Stupidity, especially in its nastiest forms of racism and superstition.”
~ Christopher Hitchens 
I have yet to see one of them produce an argument that can survive the "do you have evidence for your claim" test.
And it comes as a real shock to them when you tell them that their silly-assed bible is not evidence. It is merely the claim. 
My experience is that they will make grand claims at the beginning that they can't back up, will devolve into circular arguments, fallacies, and the like in the middle, and will eventually come down to "who are YOU to question god?" and threats of hell.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" 
There aren't any.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (April 8, 2018 at 5:29 pm)ShirkahnW Wrote: I am going to debate a theist over the existence of god soon. What are the best arguments you ever heard from theists? Any tips on what topic to avoid in such an discussion? Any tips? Yes, read these threads.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
Don't get caught trying to disprove god. The ID people love that one.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
(April 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Don't get caught trying to disprove god. The ID people love that one. It's surprisingly easy for me, but that's just me.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  RE: Best Theistic Arguments
April 8, 2018 at 10:44 pm
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2018 at 10:46 pm by robvalue.)
They can't even define it, most of the time. If they do, and it's coherent, it's almost always unfalsifiable. If that's the case, there can't be any evidence for it, so it's just an unnecessary assumption. Job done.
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To be honest, the entire definition argument is just semantics wearing a dictionary cloak.
By all standards, we know what someone means when they refer to a god.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (April 8, 2018 at 10:47 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: To be honest, the entire definition argument is just semantics wearing a dictionary cloak. Are you referring to my post? If someone can't even define the terms they use, then they are talking crap and are wasting everyone's time. That's what pinning the theist down is supposed to avoid. It's not so much an argument as a starting point for any sensible discussion. If the theist falls at the starting line and not even the first hurdle, then that's too bad. Feel free to send me a private message.
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