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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
April 23, 2018 at 6:31 pm
One of my youngest daughters says she thinks people go to church because "They're bored, and they don't have anything better to do." and she suggests "Maybe they should get a hobby. Or watch TV. Growups can enjoy cartoons too."
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
April 24, 2018 at 1:33 am
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(April 22, 2018 at 9:35 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I guess the main reason Christians go to church is to worship God and thus ensure their passage to heaven. But it recently occurred to me that another reason may be to show other church-goers that they're good/moral people.
Do any Christians disagree?
The church holds people accountable. Most people in an individual church know each other outside the church, so they need not go to church to prove their goodness to other members. Do you have any idea what worshiping God is?
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(April 22, 2018 at 9:54 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: I think for church goers it's about community. Like us atheists here on this forum, it's about community.
Christians join you in this community so why do you not join in on Sunday we would be glad to have you.
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
April 24, 2018 at 3:31 am
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Remember, humans are social primates so as an organization with codified moral rules, with a hierarchical structure it suits people's primal feelings. It all started back when bands and tribes gave way to chiefdoms and states, religion developed as the principal social institution to facilitate cooperation.
So in essence going to temples comes down to: "If I see you every week in church, mosque, or synagogue, consistently participating in our religion's activities and following the prescribed rituals and customs, it is a positive indication that you can be trusted and you are a reliable member of our group that I can count on."
The divinity evolved along a parallel track. Animistic spirits gave way to anthropomorphic and polytheistic gods, and in the eastern Mediterranean the anthropomorphic gods of the pastoral people there lost out to the monotheistic God of Abraham.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
April 24, 2018 at 4:17 am
I suspect that the most basic, fundamental reason Christians go to church is that they're afraid not to.
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
April 24, 2018 at 6:35 am
(April 24, 2018 at 4:17 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I suspect that the most basic, fundamental reason Christians go to church is that they're afraid not to.
Boru
And especially old people. I knew few old women that toward the end of their lives they were obsessed with going to church every day and even calling the priest to apologize when they couldn't make it for that day.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
April 24, 2018 at 7:58 am
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They see the toll booth up ahead more clearly than those farther behind them on the road. Also, old women....super duper lonely. Takes all of five minutes at a geriatric filing cabinet to crack that nut.
(there are lots of old religious women in my family...I;ve found that my little brood keeps them out of church nicely. There;s more people in my living room, they all like their grannies and their aunties and their nanas.....church usually gets called off whenever we're around)
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
August 16, 2018 at 5:47 pm
Well, Alexmahone, you may have waited some time but we finally have an answer why Christians go to Church/ mass:
Quote:The victim’s mother was missing mass and he was told by “a Sunday school teacher that missing mass could make you die. Concerned for his mother who was missing mass, the victim went down to the church to plead the case of his mother” to Father Guth:
Guth asked the victim whether he believed that Jesus suffered and died for our sins, in response to which the victim said “of course” as that is what he was taught. Guth talked about penance and having crosses to bear and asked the victim if he would do anything to save his mother. Guth then spoke of secret confessions and penance before reaching over and unbuckling the victim’s pants, pulling them down, fondling him, and sticking his finger up the victim’s anus.
The priest told the victim that both he and his mother would burn in Hell if he ever told anyone about the “secret penance.”
https://ffrf.org/uploads/legal/386201839...f#page=485
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
August 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm
(April 22, 2018 at 9:35 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I guess the main reason Christians go to church is to worship God and thus ensure their passage to heaven. But it recently occurred to me that another reason may be to show other church-goers that they're good/moral people.
Do any Christians disagree?
Why do Athiests go to church?
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
August 17, 2018 at 12:46 pm
(August 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 22, 2018 at 9:35 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I guess the main reason Christians go to church is to worship God and thus ensure their passage to heaven. But it recently occurred to me that another reason may be to show other church-goers that they're good/moral people.
Do any Christians disagree?
Why do Athiests go to church?
The food.
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RE: Another reason why Christians go to church
August 17, 2018 at 1:50 pm
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(August 17, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: (August 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Why do Athiests go to church?
The food.
Yup. Those little crackers taste great with Cheez-Whiz on them.
I only go to a church when there is a marryin' or a buryin', and only for the people involved. Not for any putative god.
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