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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2018 at 11:42 pm by CDF47.)
(May 14, 2018 at 11:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 11:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: BS...My points stand correct. Whenever I said something minor in error, I acknowledged it, and made correction (like I always do). You made no acknowledgement or corrections. Can we expect an acknowledgement and correction for your failure to acknowledge and correct?
Honestly, why is this lump of pathetic ideas so valuable to you? I remember...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllll the way back at the beginnning of thois thread, you told us that learning that id was garbage wouldn;t affect your faith, that you had no complex or specific attachment to it that rendered your faith irreducibly complex in it;s absence. Well, you're being shown all of the ways that ID is garbage.
I think you might need to make some acknowledgement and corrections to that as well.
(I had you pegged for an eye man, btw..but it was 50/50 eyes or flagellum.)
LOL...Sure.
I disagree. I think I have shown the brilliance behind DNA design and molecular machines and the construction of the universe.
LOL...OK.
I can talk the eye. I prefer the flagellum though since it can operate as a pump under a different variation. The human eye has design trade-offs which optimizes it in some circumstances but reduces it's capability in others. It's designed to do what is needed for us humans.
(May 14, 2018 at 11:30 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:BS...My points stand correct.
Nope totally destroyed
Quote:Whenever I said something minor in error, I acknowledged it, and made correction (like I always do).
Now that is BS
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:45 pm
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(May 14, 2018 at 11:41 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I disagree. I think I have shown the brilliance behind DNA design and molecular machines and the construction of the universe. By being flat out wrong about literally everything? That would be a neat trick.
Quote:I can talk the eye. I prefer the flagellum though since it can operate as a pump under a different variation. The human eye has design trade-offs which optimizes it in some circumstances but reduces it's capability in others. It's designed to do what is needed for us humans.
Every time you mention alternate uses of a reduced biological structure you deny the claim of irreducible complexity. Is the trouble here that you can;t let go of that mistaken belief...or that you don;t understand what irreducible complexity is supposed to be?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:46 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I can run to the bk and get you a little paper crown, if that;s what you're after CDF. Then you can talk about all the winning you do in a regal fashion.
You;d still be wrong, but at least you'd have a spiffy hat.
It is not irreducibly complex..because removing parts doesn;t make the system non functional. That is the definition of irreducible complexity advanced by behe, and destroyed by peer review..and then in court, and now..even by you, in this thread. You were wrong, again. I;m not ribbing you by telling you this, or posturing or trying to get a rise out of you. You have been dead wrong about everything ID related in this thread. You;re even wrong by ID standards..........in this.
I'll take the crown.
False.
It acts as a pump only when certain parts are removed though. I guess the pump would just be irreducibly complex then.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:47 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 11:45 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Is the trouble here that you can;t let go of that mistaken belief...or that you don;t understand what irreducible complexity is supposed to be?
Both?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:48 pm
Quote:LOL...Sure.
You don't
Quote:I disagree. I think I have shown the brilliance behind DNA design and molecular machines and the construction of the universe.
It does not matter if you agree . you have shown nothing .
Quote:LOL...OK.
Yes it is kay
Quote:I can talk the eye. I prefer the flagellum though since it can operate as a pump under a different variation. The human eye has design trade-offs which optimizes it in some circumstances but reduces it's capability in others. It's designed to do what is needed for us humans.
Excuses disguised as what we would expect if evolution were true . If you accept one alteration there is no reason not accept an infinite collection of prior forms and different systems .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:48 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Your ridicule is just a debate trick and it shows maturity level.
Nope it's an honest attack on your nonsense it's got nothing to do with debate or tactics .
Quote:I won the debate based on the first post topic on DNA information. I won other debates in here on other topics as well.
No you didn't you have lost on every subject and it's mother . You have failed completely to Creationism and have succeeded only in showing why you beliefs are without merit .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 11:39 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Agree to disagree.
No
Quote:See post above.
It's still wrong
Quote:It is designed. Certain parts can be used for other machines I agree. Like the union might work for another molecular machine,.
No it's not . Nope this refutes the point . If it can be reduced it not irreducibly complex no matter how specific the alteration . And if it can be alter once there is no reason to believe it can't be altered ever more. Or that it's individual components could not have been part of prior evolved systems . When you accept one alteration there is no reason to to accept a vast variety of prior forms that with varied additions came to current states.
Yes.
Agree to disagree.
Certain components, like the union, may be used for other machines. That is just a component though. Remove a part from the pump and the pump fails so it is irreducibly complex.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm
Quote:I'll take the crown.
No you won't
Quote:False.
True
Quote:It acts as a pump only when certain parts are removed though. I guess the pump would just be irreducibly complex the
Does not matter if it can be altered in any way no matter how specific there is no reason to believe it could not be the result of an infinite series of function and alterations of prior forms . This is creationist excuse making 101 .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 11:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Nope it's an honest attack on your nonsense it's got nothing to do with debate or tactics .
No you didn't you have lost on every subject and it's mother . You have failed completely to Creationism and have succeeded only in showing why you beliefs are without merit .
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