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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 19, 2018 at 2:29 am)robvalue Wrote:
(October 19, 2018 at 2:26 am)Khemikal Wrote: @CDF
You think lots of silly things.  An atheist is a person who doesn't believe in gods.  You think that there are some people who don't believe in gods...who believe in gods..?

Can you spot the problem in that brilliant suspicion of yours?

I personally don’t believe that he really believes that I believe in things I don’t believe in. He’s just very confused and needs to stop smacking his head with bricks before typing.

LOL

(October 19, 2018 at 2:30 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(October 19, 2018 at 2:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: That may be good advice...LOL.  Not sure.

(October 19, 2018 at 2:29 am)CDF47 Wrote: I think there are some deceptive people that actually believe in a God or gods and just don't like them that call themselves atheists.  May not be a lot but I think there are some out there.  It seems to obvious and some really smart people seem not to get it.

So, not atheists, maltheists.  See above.

What makes you think maltheists would be hiding their fuck you's?

Yes, maltheists that refer to themselves deceptively as atheists.  Do they exist here?  Very good!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
I believe that all these stupid psycho creators do exist in the minds of believers. I hate those incarnations, and I hate that they got (mostly) implanted there as vulnerable children.

I hope parents will put more thought into things in the future. Stuff that is true doesn’t need to be slipped in the back door.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Maltheists are commonly vocal.  You're likely a maltheist with regards to everyone else's silly god.  Just recall the fucked up shit you'll say at the drop of a dime, about other crapgods,  and you'll have a window into a maltheists POV.  

Meanwhile, if a person tells you they don't believe in gods.....just like you expect them to concede to your authority when you say you do...you should concede to theirs. Imagining that there are cryptotheists lurking in dark corners is obtusely paranoid.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 19, 2018 at 2:34 am)robvalue Wrote: I believe that all these stupid psycho creators do exist in the minds of believers. I hate those incarnations, and I hate that they got (mostly) implanted there as vulnerable children.

I hope parents will put more thought into things in the future. Stuff that is true doesn’t need to be slipped in the back door.

What we need to focus on most is in their minds, because existence of something outside of the natural order of reality can only reside in such an imaginative environment. 

The parent part might be overstepping, though.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Hey CDF... I may have asked this before, but what is it that you consider to be a god?
1- Some otherworldly king-like figure?
2- Some immaterial entity, but capable of interacting with the material world?
3- The philosopher's god, that which is a set of metaphysical properties, such as the property of existing, without which nothing can exist at all?


The way you speak, I'd wager number 1, with a hint at number 2.
But the most rational basis for the Christian religion lies in number 1... and, even that one requires the leap of logic where you have to assume that metaphysics is not a human construct.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 19, 2018 at 2:36 am)Khemikal Wrote: Maltheists are commonly vocal.  You're likely a maltheist with regards to everyone else's silly god.  Just recall the fucked up shit you'll say at the drop of a dime, about other crapgods,  and you'll have a window into a maltheists POV.  

Meanwhile, if a person tells you they don't believe in gods.....just like you expect them to concede to your authority when you say you do...you should concede to theirs.  Imagining that there are cryptotheists lurking in dark corners is obtusely paranoid.

I do believe all gods, other than the triune God of the Bible, are false gods.  I don't generally talk bad about them, I just think they are clearly false gods.  

Ahh, crytotheists, that's a new one for me too.  Yeah, there could be them hear as well.

(October 19, 2018 at 2:44 am)pocaracas Wrote: Hey CDF... I may have asked this before, but what is it that you consider to be a god?
1- Some otherworldly king-like figure?
2- Some immaterial entity, but capable of interacting with the material world?
3- The philosopher's god, that which is a set of metaphysical properties, such as the property of existing, without which nothing can exist at all?


The way you speak, I'd wager number 1, with a hint at number 2.
But the most rational basis for the Christian religion lies in number 1... and, even that one requires the leap of logic where you have to assume that metaphysics is not a human construct.

I believe in number 1 and some of number 2 and even some of number 3.  I believe in the Christian God of the Bible.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Lol. Priceless.

I’m beginning to see why this shit show has gone on for so long and why the OP decided to resurrect it.

Edit: plagiarising Wikipedia. The sign of quintessential class. OP, you must be a titan of academia and critical thought.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 19, 2018 at 2:59 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Lol. Priceless.

I’m beginning to see why this shit show has gone on for so long and why the OP decided to resurrect it.

Edit: plagiarising Wikipedia. The sign of quintessential class. OP, you must be a titan of academia and critical thought.

I thought the definition needed some revision is all.  It is now my definition, LOL.  No one better plagiarize it or else.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
CDF47, what if Allah made this world? Or Vishnu, Zeus, Thor, Ra?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(October 19, 2018 at 2:56 am)CDF47 Wrote: do believe all gods, other than the triune God of the Bible, are false gods.  I don't generally talk bad about them, I just think they are clearly false gods.  

Ahh, crytotheists, that's a new one for me too.  Yeah, there could be them hear as well.

The prefix "crypto-" means "secret, hidden, closeted"...

example: "I bet a good number of Trump supporters are cryptofascists."

I doubt very many here are cryptotheists. But what do I know? I've only carried on lengthy conversations with them precisely on the topic of their beliefs. (Notice I said "their" beliefs. I didn't make any 500 page threads where I went on and on about my own beliefs.) I took the time to investigate their beliefs (or lack thereof) asking them questions when I was unclear on something.

I betcha there are some cryptoatheists out there Wink You know?... folks who talk a big game about Jesus, but if they ever think about God on the way to see their underaged mistress, they're like, "Lol! That's just something I pretend to believe in at church... or when I want to discriminate against gays."

What's your opinion on cryptoatheists? Are they out there?
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