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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 1:49 pm
(May 7, 2018 at 12:33 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I took the myth of evolution seriously for too long LadyForCamus. I realized I did so simply because I was a coward too scared to reflect and see for myself what the truth regarding this matter is. I use to read Creationist arguments and just read the refutations thinking they been refuted.
But I have more courage to perceive truth be it from a an unknown child and reject falsehood be it by the most praised and popular person on earth.
When you begin to perceive, all the signs become manifest, and when things start clicking, everything starts to fall into place.
Evolution is a fact.
But even if it wasn't the idea of god would still be the silly myth that it always seemed to me.
But it is.
Evolution IS a fact.
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 2:01 pm
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@MK
It takes a novel use of the terms courage and cowardice to decide that shoving uncomfortable things down the memory hole is the former..rather than the latter.
I don;t personally understand the need to hide ones beliefs from scrutiny in this way. If they're true beliefs, they would be co-currently true with other true propositions. Don;t you agree?
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 2:24 pm
MysticKnight Wrote:I took the myth of evolution seriously for too long
You are evidence of evolution so if you think it is a myth that presumably means you dont exist then
Go look in the mirror because all the evidence you need for evolution will be staring right back at you
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 2:30 pm
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(May 7, 2018 at 2:24 pm)surreptitious57 Wrote: MysticKnight Wrote:I took the myth of evolution seriously for too long
You are evidence of evolution so if you think it is a myth that presumably means you dont exist then
Go look in the mirror because all the evidence you need for evolution will be staring right back at you
I bet evolution would rather be disbelieved than own up to having produced the likes of MK.
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 6:32 pm
Irreducible Complexity is such a meaningless term. You can point to humans and say "Oh look, we're irreducibly complex" Do you know what people take out of it when you say that? Absolutely nothing. Because it's literally meaningless. There's no meaning to it. Just a couple of words strung together to try to convince the scientifically handicapped into following logic using two separate words to create a new word that has zero scientific value, and zero real value.
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 6:40 pm
Sorry MK, but a short overview of ID can be summed up with "it's bollocks!"
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm
(May 7, 2018 at 6:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: We have religious people on this forum boasting all the time how they don't read Dawkins and other "atheist authors" as some sort of accomplishment, but it would all save us time if they did because this is something that has been discussed and debunked in all sorts of books. Most notably in dreaded "God Delusion" by Dawkins.
I mean not only would it save us time but religious people would not have to embarrass themselves for being so ignorant.
Here is an excerpt from that scary book to show you what you might know if you read it:
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A mousetrap made from one moving part.
![[Image: stillmousetrap2.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=udel.edu%2F~mcdonald%2Fstillmousetrap2.gif)
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 8, 2018 at 1:54 am
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(May 7, 2018 at 9:36 am)MysticKnight Wrote: You can have a discussion LC but the opposite of that, is talking about "peer review" and "science" to dismiss Creationist arguments.
Why? The vast majority of creatards want their silly assertions to be considered scientific fact. Thus they need to subject their pronouncements to the full rigour of the scientific method.
(May 7, 2018 at 9:42 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (May 7, 2018 at 9:41 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "Everyone else is wrong, God has revealed the truth to me." That's some dangerous thinking there, MK. How the hell did you end up that far down the rabbit hole?
It's called having some courage to not be intimated by people claiming they have knowledge when they are not trustworthy enough to use reasoning nor humble enough to accept the truth.
And that way lies the path of a Torquemada or bin Laden.
(May 7, 2018 at 9:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (May 7, 2018 at 9:18 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't believe in scientific authority.
And that's all the news from the 11th C. Tune in later as we update you on the latest shamanism developments.
To be honest it's not. Islam didn't get to be that anti-rational until three centuries later. Most learned islamic scholars of the 10th century would be at least open to the idea of evolution if you provided evidence.
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 8, 2018 at 2:42 am
(May 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm)Succubus Wrote: A mousetrap made from one moving part.
Here it is folks: no conspiracy; no authority saying "You must believe this because I say so and I will brainwash you until you do." -- evolution simply makes more logical sense then anything else.
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RE: Intelligent Design (brief overview).
May 8, 2018 at 2:59 am
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(May 7, 2018 at 6:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Sorry MK, but a short overview of ID can be summed up with "it's bollocks!"
Watched a nice doco last night.
They showed an embryo (they're nearly all the same in the early stages since we all evolved from simple creatures)
We have a yolk at 3 weeks (when we were still egg born)
Then we have a tail
We have 4 stumpy limbs (some disappear for eg: whales who no longer need the rear legs and the fronts turn into fins with fully defined fingers, then we all grow hair (from when were furry animals. This hair is still there sometimes when kids are born very premature.
Tell us again MK how we didn't evolve from simpler things and all this stuff isn't in our dna as redundant information...
You're the most ignorant person here, you know that...
Like LFC says, we feel sad for you man... because you willingly choose to remain ignorant.
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