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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 25, 2018 at 4:54 pm
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I;ve got to get this out before I totally lose my moment......but...I want to build an 8 bit carry look ahead out of terra-cotta tinted pvc and check valves as part of a water feature here in my yard.
I have this long 45 degree hill to work with..and I don;t know why but I think it would be absolutely beautiful to build a simple processor out of all the flow lines, and use it instead of solenoids to manage the water for koi.
If i ever get off my lazy ass and do it, none of you will ever be able to stop me from posting 30 pictures of the thing a fuckin day.
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 25, 2018 at 5:11 pm
(May 25, 2018 at 4:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and now, we return to our regularly scheduled programming
No fuck that I want to get back to what you said earlier ...
(May 25, 2018 at 4:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I;ve got to get this out before I totally lose my moment......but...I want to build an 8 bit carry look ahead out of terra-cotta tinted pvc and check valves as part of a water feature here in my yard.
I have this long 45 degree hill to work with..and I don;t know why but I think it would be absolutely beautiful to build a simple processor out of all the flow lines, and use it instead of solenoids to manage the water for koi.
If i ever get off my lazy ass and do it, none of you will ever be able to stop me from posting 30 pictures of the thing a fuckin day.
See I want to do something similar with neural networks. I figured out that I could implement my local learning ANN as a garden water feature. Each neuron could be impemented by a water cistern that fills to the point where a gate flips over like the kind of garden features you get in Japanese gardens) with the water flowing through pipes of different widths to other layer of neurons. It would be a self organising system where water pressure corresponded to voltage. The attraction would be that being a physical system something like that could last for an indefinite period of time.
My problem has always been knowing what to use it for. Something like selecting the stream of water which caused the less disturbance. Would you want to minimise / maximise the flow of water for Koi?
So fucking cool we both have similar ideas.
Having now sold our house with a 45 degree overgrown hill for a garden in Germany having only ever lived there for 3 months, I am playing at creating a neural network with Geomags on my living room coffee table as a physical representation of an energy landscape.
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 25, 2018 at 5:48 pm
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(May 25, 2018 at 5:11 pm)Mathilda Wrote: My problem has always been knowing what to use it for. Something like selecting the stream of water which caused the less disturbance. Would you want to minimise / maximise the flow of water for Koi? Both..a variable problem! You need to maximize the overall flow of water into and out of the main containment area to create a minimum exchange rate of a full containment volume of water an hour. However, the rate of flow has to be split and reduced in order for sumping or baffling clarifiers to separate the solids and reduced further still to allow a liquidized biofilter to handle the ammonia load. Then it has to be sped up again to offgas and create substantial dissolved oxygen by the time it returns to the containment.
-and that;s just the flow rate issue...the tiniest of all of the issues involved if you want monstrously large fish. None of the best numbers are set, they;re all based on the weight of the fish and the rate of feeding (and whatever effects both of those things have on other components in your system).
Your ann..could be used to seek out and then enforce a maximized water and feed management system while -being- part of the physical system, and changing as the requirements of the fish change. It would be a herculean lift, but you might be able to get it to do the thinking and the work for you, in response to the living elements of the system. If it were me, I;d shuffle off as much of that work as possible on other living elements, but that introduces a bunch of babysitting life in exchange for less work/calculation...and im sure you know how volatile and unpredictable that can be, lol.
(and if you do it, and if it works, and if you ever get the itch to patent anything,. I demand exclusive distributorship over your tech!, I will pay you handsomely, forever.... lol  )
Now, if the flow gets too low, at any point, or the suspended solids get too high, the whole system goes anaerobic. If it goes to fast, the fish choke on their own urine. If the water is too warm then you will have to increase the rate of feeding..increasing the filtration load....but it it goes to cold the fish will cease to grow (and big koi can go months without eating). This one you can play with for effect. If there are too many small fish the ammonia will spike relative to their identical weight in large fish, and if there are too many large fish then the small fish will starve on account of not being able to steal grub from moby dick.
-on and on the list of solvable problems goes......
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 25, 2018 at 8:57 pm
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 25, 2018 at 8:59 pm
From my experience, theists are quite like calculators.
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 25, 2018 at 9:04 pm
More like robots .
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 26, 2018 at 5:38 am
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 26, 2018 at 10:07 am
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 26, 2018 at 10:23 am
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OK so because it's automated reasoning then it's not reasoning because it's reasoning that is automated.
And when I post wikipedia links with "It has been argued that" it can be dismissed but when your wikipedia articles start with "normally considered to be" then it's OK.
Yep got it. You are applying different standards here, equivocating between general and specific laymen definitions and quote mining from wikipedia without understanding what it's talking about.
So business as usual for you.
To be honest I expected you to go down the route of arguing that computers are not calculators which would have been even funnier.
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RE: Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members
May 26, 2018 at 12:46 pm
(May 26, 2018 at 10:23 am)Mathilda Wrote: OK so because it's automated reasoning then it's not reasoning because it's reasoning that is automated.
And when I post wikipedia links with "It has been argued that" it can be dismissed but when your wikipedia articles start with "normally considered to be" then it's OK.
Yep got it. You are applying different standards here, equivocating between general and specific laymen definitions and quote mining from wikipedia without understanding what it's talking about.
So business as usual for you.
To be honest I expected you to go down the route of arguing that computers are not calculators which would have been even funnier.
*emphasis mine*
'Automated reasoning' is not the same as 'reasoning' because there is a basically a CAVEAT in front of reasoning... how do you not understand this? Is human reasoning defined as 'automated'?
You claimed that morality is a product of evolution, one cannot be moral without the ability to reason, because morality is the ability to distinguish right from wrong / good from evil; therefore if you claim that morality is a product of evolution, then you'd have to agree the reasoning is a product of evolution.
Would you consider 'automated reasoning' a product of evolution?
As far as "normally considered to be" vs "It has been argued that"
The earth is "normally considered to be" round but "It has been argued that" it is flat.
See the difference?
When it comes to animal morality and reason, you're in the "it has been argued that animals posses both of those qualities" group...
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