Theists: how do you account for psychopaths?

[Amarok]

The odd thing is that I’m not even going to see any of heavenly rewards which supposedly make sense of this life which I hate. So I must be some sort of collateral damage for other peoples’ payoffs. Fantastic.

Only two kinds of people would consider the concept of heaven a reward . The insane or the naive .

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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I don't know what you mean by "it's ok". Tragedies are always a horrible thing, and never ok things. I certainly don't think what happened to me was ok. 

But we don't know what the long term consequences would be, both in this world and in the next, eternal one, if this world were one where God always stepped in to prevent anything and everything that would cause us suffering. I assume things would overall somehow not work out very well, otherwise He would do it.

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3 million children die of hunger each year, you're telling me that this necessary for some greater good? Why can't God just eliminate suffering and death altogether, it seems to me that God if he is all powerful could reach maximum goodness without all of the death, pain, and suffering.

People know that kids have to eat so if they can't feed them then maybe they shouldn't have them.  Even in America where we have the means and ability to feed everyone some pukes get ticked off when needy people get food assistance.  We can eliminate a lot of our own suffering if we really wanted to but some people are not interested in doing that.  Instead they want an imaginary deity to prevent it in the first place.

[Amarok]

Holy crap wyrd 

[The Grand Nudger]

It sounds like common sense at first, but it ignores our overriding biological compulsions while simultaneously presenting thew idea that the poor should not breed as a credible solution to a problem that...frankly..doesn;t have to exist but for the greed that makes those people poor in the first place.

(or, in context of the thread, but for the design that makes us need to consume others and the subsequent apathy of the creator who arranged things in this way.)

[Amarok]

It sounds like common sense at first, but it ignores our overriding biological compulsions while simultaneously presenting thew idea that the poor should not breed as a credible solution to a problem that...frankly..doesn;t have to exist but for the greed that makes those people poor in the first place.

(or, in context of the thread, but for the design that makes us need to consume others and the subsequent apathy of the creator who arranged things in this way)

Not to mention the creepily eugenics like implication that your material status should determine whether or not it's permissible for you to reproduce. I'm pretty sure if we went back far enough everyone here is the product of poor people screwing .

[The Grand Nudger]

God and society are the archetypal absentee fathers...their children are starving, and in the face of this both dicks blame the children for their privation. Meanwhile, if poor people stopped fucking, there wouldn;t be anyone to support the lives (or faiths) of the assholes shifting their responsibilities onto those they have harmed.

[Edwardo Piet]

I'm an all out anti-natalist so I can roll just fine with not giving birth to people.







"It is not only the ratio of pleasure to pain that determines the quality of a life, but also the sheer quantity of pain. Once a certain threshold of pain is passed, no amount of pleasure can compensate for it." - David Benetar

"If you’re thinking about bringing someone into existence, you’re not just thinking about when they’re young, but also when they’re in their eighties. Parents don’t think about the cancer that will ravage their future child’s body decades after they themselves die. " - David Benetar

[Wyrd of Gawd]

so the first life form got to thinking one dreary day and thought =this is all going to be a waste of time and effort and so it killed itself and that was the end of life for all time on the planet Xeroba.

[Catholic_Lady]

I'm an all out anti-natalist so I can roll just fine with not giving birth to people.







"It is not only the ratio of pleasure to pain that determines the quality of a life, but also the sheer quantity of pain. Once a certain threshold of pain is passed, no amount of pleasure can compensate for it." - David Benetar

"If you’re thinking about bringing someone into existence, you’re not just thinking about when they’re young, but also when they’re in their eighties. Parents don’t think about the cancer that will ravage their future child’s body decades after they themselves die. " - David Benetar

This all sounds very nihilistic.

[Foxaèr]

This all sounds very nihilistic.

Nihilism.