Question to theists

[Neo-Scholastic]

Maybe that's why they cling to their hate, GC. It's all they have.

I feel no hate.  I just want reason and evidence.  I wish a god was real.

I wasn't thinking of you. I was thinking of the kind of person that would say "joos" in front of a guy who married a Jewish girl.

[Drich]

If we presume that instead of hell God erases rebels, can you still provide legit reason to follow Magical God?

God is not for everyone. God did what He did so he could have His Children make a choice to come home. "we" according to Christ are not all God's children. Jesus in a parable likened God's children as a crop of wheat he had sown in a field and that night his enemy went behind him and sown "Tares." which looks exactly like wheat until it ripens and instead of a golden brown head of wheat the tare yield a black head of seeds that are not edible.

So in the same field/planet we have wheat/God's seed and weeds/seed of satan growing and working together. Jesus said wait to the harvest before these two are seperated. the harvest being after the end of days/final judgement.

For those who love God the answer is clear in that we must seek the atonement offered so we can be with God forever.

Those who hate God/serve a different master will not see the opportunity God has provided.

[purplepurpose]

If we presume that instead of hell God erases rebels, can you still provide legit reason to follow Magical God?

God is not for everyone. God did what He did so he could have His Children make a choice to come home. "we" according to Christ are not all God's children. Jesus in a parable likened God's children as a crop of wheat he had sown in a field and that night his enemy went behind him and sown "Tares." which looks exactly like wheat until it ripens and instead of a golden brown head of wheat the tare yield a black head of seeds that are not edible.

So in the same field/planet we have wheat/God's seed and weeds/seed of satan growing and working together. Jesus said wait to the harvest before these two are seperated. the harvest being after the end of days/final judgement.

For those who love God the answer is clear in that we must seek the atonement offered so we can be with God forever.

Those who hate God/serve a different master will not see the opportunity God has provided.

Why do you want to be with God forever, If we put aside idea about hell?

[Astreja]

Stories that people wrote about god are never going to convince me that god exists, GC.  You must realize that about most of us by now, don’t you?

I've been wondering if GC really does understand how non-belief works.  It really doesn't sound like it, because he keeps throwing the same shit at the wall as if he's expecting it to stick.  I can imagine what belief is like, but can he imagine how non-belief actually feels?

[Crossless2.0]

If we presume that instead of hell God erases rebels, can you still provide legit reason to follow Magical God?

God is not for everyone. God did what He did so he could have His Children make a choice to come home. "we" according to Christ are not all God's children. Jesus in a parable likened God's children as a crop of wheat he had sown in a field and that night his enemy went behind him and sown "Tares." which looks exactly like wheat until it ripens and instead of a golden brown head of wheat the tare yield a black head of seeds that are not edible.

So in the same field/planet we have wheat/God's seed and weeds/seed of satan growing and working together. Jesus said wait to the harvest before these two are seperated. the harvest being after the end of days/final judgement.

For those who love God the answer is clear in that we must seek the atonement offered so we can be with God forever.

Those who hate God/serve a different master will not see the opportunity God has provided.

As an aside, I wonder how many different metaphors and similes the Bible used to express essentially the same idea: "Our team good; others bad".

[purplepurpose]

God is not for everyone. God did what He did so he could have His Children make a choice to come home. "we" according to Christ are not all God's children. Jesus in a parable likened God's children as a crop of wheat he had sown in a field and that night his enemy went behind him and sown "Tares." which looks exactly like wheat until it ripens and instead of a golden brown head of wheat the tare yield a black head of seeds that are not edible.

So in the same field/planet we have wheat/God's seed and weeds/seed of satan growing and working together. Jesus said wait to the harvest before these two are seperated. the harvest being after the end of days/final judgement.

For those who love God the answer is clear in that we must seek the atonement offered so we can be with God forever.

Those who hate God/serve a different master will not see the opportunity God has provided.

As an aside, I wonder how many different metaphors and similes the Bible used to express essentially the same idea: "Our team good; others bad".

Level 2 - Bad team get's tortured.
Final level or stupidity - Tortured forever.

[Crossless2.0]

As an aside, I wonder how many different metaphors and similes the Bible used to express essentially the same idea: "Our team good; others bad".

Level 2 - Bad team get's tortured.
Final level or stupidity - Tortured forever.

Bonus points for attributing one's resentments and small-minded vindictiveness to one's god -- all the while insisting that it's regarded, not with schadenfreude, but with sorrow.

That is bullshit on an awesome, untouchable level.

[Astreja]

It's a "sorrow" that blames the victim rather than the abuser.

It's a "sorrow" that pretends to be the adult in the room.

It's a "sorrow" informed by religious indoctrination, absolutist black-and-white thinking, dodgy moral thinking, and either an inability or unwillingness to see the other person's point of view.

[Godscreated]

 You do not have to wish, I can assure you He is real, more real than yourself because He is your creator. You only need to search the scriptures and God will reveal himself to a trusting heart. If you ever become serious about this PM me. There is no more I can do than point you in the right direction.

GC

Stories that people wrote about god are never going to convince me that god exists, GC.  You must realize that about most of us by now, don’t you?  The bible contains nothing but circular reasoning, and the only thing it makes evident is that people believed in a god.  Further, if a god does actually exist, I’m certain it’s not the spiteful, murderous egomaniac of the Christian faith.

I see that you do not really wish that God exist, you think the Bible is circular because that's what you want to see. no one has ever shown me anything scripture says that is circular reasoning. If stories about God want convince you then what will because God isn't going to open up heaven and show himself to you in a physical way, He does how ever for in a spiritual way for those who seek Him with an open heart. When all you do is look for things to criticize in the scriptures that is all you will find and you find those things because you can not see the finely woven tapestry which the scriptures are, they are all enter connected and only trust in God will reveal the truths written on this fine tapestry. Like I said I can only point you in a direction, the rest would be up to you and God. Do you really believe you will lose something by searching? I'm not sure how anyone can believe they would lose anything by taking a look.

GC

[LadyForCamus]

Stories that people wrote about god are never going to convince me that god exists, GC.  You must realize that about most of us by now, don’t you?  The bible contains nothing but circular reasoning, and the only thing it makes evident is that people believed in a god.  Further, if a god does actually exist, I’m certain it’s not the spiteful, murderous egomaniac of the Christian faith.

I see that you do not really wish that God exist

Oh, I do.  It’s difficult for you to fathom the idea that I don’t wish your specific god exists, isn’t it?

 you think the Bible is circular because that's what you want to see. no one has ever shown me anything scripture says that is circular reasoning.

The Bible is used by Christians as the evidence for its claims about god, which is absolutely circular. I am going to need a hell of a lot more than a book full of unevidenced, supernatural assertions in order to be convinced.  

If stories about God want convince you then what will because God isn't going to open up heaven and show himself to you in a physical way, He does how ever for in a spiritual way for those who seek Him with an open heart.

If he really wanted me to believe he would.

When all you do is look for things to criticize in the scriptures that is all you will find and you find those things because you can not see the finely woven tapestry which the scriptures are, they are all enter connected and only trust in God will reveal the truths written on this fine tapestry.

The Bible is morally reprehensible, and a narrative mess.  I don’t need to want to see that in order for it to be true.

Like I said I can only point you in a direction, the rest would be up to you and God. Do you really believe you will lose something by searching? I'm not sure how anyone can believe they would lose anything by taking a look.

I’ve  read the Bible.  I was underwhelmed.  When someone presents a robust case with plenty evidence I’ll reconsider my stance.