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Americans on Facts and Opinions
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RE: Americans on Facts and Opinions
No one else was bothered by significant? A subjective term that allows the reader to draw their own false conclusions from the headline?
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#12
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5/5 for both. Easy quiz.
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If it wasn’t done by pew research, I would say that this is click bait. Like 90% of people cannot do this, and your a genius if you can. I think that further study, may give different results.

(June 20, 2018 at 2:13 pm)henryp Wrote: No one else was bothered by significant? A subjective term that allows the reader to draw their own false conclusions from the headline?

I think that was one of the ambiguous questions they mentioned. While what one person might regard as significant may be different from another’s, it’s still talking about facts. I paused on that one a little though.
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(June 20, 2018 at 2:30 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: If it wasn’t done by pew research, I would say that this is click bait.  Like 90% of people cannot do this, and your a genius if you can.   I think that further study, may give different results.

(June 20, 2018 at 2:13 pm)henryp Wrote: No one else was bothered by significant?  A subjective term that allows the reader to draw their own false conclusions from the headline?

I think that was one of the ambiguous questions they mentioned. While what one person might regard as significant may be different from another’s, it’s still talking about facts.  I paused on that one a little though.

That's how they really do it.  By using language that frames the facts in the desired way.  

Is the territory lost significant in size?  Is it significant in some strategic sense.  Is it significant because it seems like a lot to the author?  How significant is it?  "Significant" is definitely not a fact.
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(June 20, 2018 at 2:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(June 20, 2018 at 1:57 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I doubt Europeans are better. I just spent 3 months there and they were super ill-informed or misinformed about America, in general.

Sure, but I would would hope that the people living here would do better than Europeans.

It makes no difference where you live, if I knew nothing about America I could give the correct answers. It was asking if the statement represented a fact or an opinion, not if the statement was true or false.
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(June 20, 2018 at 1:57 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(June 20, 2018 at 1:15 pm)polymath257 Wrote: 5/5 and 5/5.....way too easy to think many people can't tell the difference.

Even if that's a fact...

I doubt Europeans are better. I just spent 3 months there and they were super ill-informed or misinformed about America, in general.

At least we tend to inform ourselves about our own fucking country.

Also, I'd put up the average European (hell I'd put up the average Malawian) and they'll know a lot more about the US than the average US citizen.
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(June 20, 2018 at 2:13 pm)henryp Wrote: No one else was bothered by significant?  A subjective term that allows the reader to draw their own false conclusions from the headline?

Yeh I did pause at that one.  It was to do with the territory lost by ISIS.  I just assumed they had lost so much territory, and territory of objective importance to both sides, that it wouldn't be subjective if both sides thought the territory is significant. 

This was the one I paused the most on though.


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Significant territory is a measure of area, not subjective appraisals of strategic importance. That would be -A- significant territory.

Even then, it would likely be classified as fact given the breadth of their losses.
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5/5 and 5/5. Whew! Dodged a bullet on that one!
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5/5 and 5/5 far to easy
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