Jesus' Crucifixion a parable

[Silver]

The above must be what a small mind in like on the inside... 
uga, bunga science describe everything I can see feel taste touche.
uga bunga.. science know everthing.
Uga, bunga... me can not feel taste touche God.. Science can no feel taste touche God Science say no God.. uga bunga me say no god...

Ahem.. excuse me uga booga was it, common sense here, sorry don't think we've met before..

Let me get this straight.. your 'science' is a system that classifies tangible items and some intangible items that are based on tangiblee things.. God however is not one of those things so according to science God can not exist in a tangible universe.

ok hang in there uga... but what if... God says this about himself? What if God says I will intentionally be outside of what you will ever be able to see, feel taste or touche? BUT you can know I am here because I will show u when you A+B+C.

Do you see the problem uga?

If God.. is as powerful as He says He is, and then declares He will remain unseen unless you ABC... Then if he says who he says he is... you won't be able to find him. So if Science could find God then God would not be as powerful therefore not God. Do you get it? If science ever could find God then by definition whatever science found can't be God. Meaning if the God of the bible could be put in a 'science box' then by defination what was found can't be God. It's 'scintific paradox!'

So uga bunga Science... is a bullshit excuse, for people who want to pretend they are looking for God, but truly are only intentionally looking in the one place God will not be found.. 

Rather if God is what He says He is then the only way to proof god... is to meet Him on His terms.

Guess what uga... million upon billions of people over thousands of ears have done this very thing. but not 'science' do you still wonder why captain cave man or can you see the paradox?

Incorrect. Science doesn't know everything. It knows its limits, but it doesn't make up imaginary answers like "god" to support and comfort itself as religion does.

If anything, religion makes the claim of complete knowledge that can only be understood through "god" via the bible.

Guess what, that's not knowledge.

That's reliance upon a fictional character based on a fictional book.\

*gasps*

[Drich]

What makes you think I haven't? What in all that I have shared over the years makes you think I personally do not know great suffering?

I believe you have had momentary instances of where you experienced suffering on a minor level.

That's not the same as stating you suffered as a cancer "victim" has suffered.

and that's how we know you are a spoiled no life experience hack try to be little someone who had been around the bend.. the catalyst/ what causes the suffering is meaningless. level of cancer has no correlation between suffering a positive attitude. I know kids with or who had cancer and beside the physical side effects you'd never know they had it. on the other hand I know people with undiagnosed lumps and it is the end of their world already.

[Silver]

and that's how we know you are a spoiled no life experience hack try to be little someone who had been around the bend.. the catalyst/ what causes the suffering is meaningless. level of cancer has no correlation between suffering a positive attitude. I know kids with or who had cancer and beside the physical side effects you'd never know they had it. on the other hand I know people with undiagnosed lumps and it is the end of their world already.

We?  You suffer from multiple personality disorder?

Yep, MPD.

[Drich]

The above must be what a small mind in like on the inside... 
uga, bunga science describe everything I can see feel taste touche.
uga bunga.. science know everthing.
Uga, bunga... me can not feel taste touche God.. Science can no feel taste touche God Science say no God.. uga bunga me say no god...

Ahem.. excuse me uga booga was it, common sense here, sorry don't think we've met before..

Let me get this straight.. your 'science' is a system that classifies tangible items and some intangible items that are based on tangiblee things.. God however is not one of those things so according to science God can not exist in a tangible universe.

ok hang in there uga... but what if... God says this about himself? What if God says I will intentionally be outside of what you will ever be able to see, feel taste or touche? BUT you can know I am here because I will show u when you A+B+C.

Do you see the problem uga?

If God.. is as powerful as He says He is, and then declares He will remain unseen unless you ABC... Then if he says who he says he is... you won't be able to find him. So if Science could find God then God would not be as powerful therefore not God. Do you get it? If science ever could find God then by definition whatever science found can't be God. Meaning if the God of the bible could be put in a 'science box' then by defination what was found can't be God. It's 'scintific paradox!'

So uga bunga Science... is a bullshit excuse, for people who want to pretend they are looking for God, but truly are only intentionally looking in the one place God will not be found.. 

Rather if God is what He says He is then the only way to proof god... is to meet Him on His terms.

Guess what uga... million upon billions of people over thousands of ears have done this very thing. but not 'science' do you still wonder why captain cave man or can you see the paradox?

Incorrect.  Science doesn't know everything.  It knows its limits, but it doesn't make up imaginary answers like "god" to support and comfort itself as religion does.

If anything, religion makes the claim of complete knowledge that can only be understood through "god" via the bible.  

Guess what, that's not knowledge.

That's reliance upon a fictional character based on a fictional book.\

*gasps*

"that's not knowledge" Moron! you are still trying to classify God with a method that would be paradoxical. 

Did you not understand what is being said???

Let's say God is real.. I'm saying science can't literally, can't classify God due to it's restrictions and limitations with in itself. If it could that would mean God would have to fit in the 'box'/parameters of science/God would have to be subject or manipulated by man, in order to be studied and classified, with in the finite world of science. Now if God were finite and science could grasp what was there, then that being is not or ceases to be God.

Do you see the paradox?

So why look for something in a fashion that is by nature paradoxical? Why not remove the paradox then look?

If God is who He says He is... then wouldn't you only be able to find Him the way He demands you look?

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and that's how we know you are a spoiled no life experience hack try to be little someone who had been around the bend.. the catalyst/ what causes the suffering is meaningless. level of cancer has no correlation between suffering a positive attitude. I know kids with or who had cancer and beside the physical side effects you'd never know they had it. on the other hand I know people with undiagnosed lumps and it is the end of their world already.

We?  You suffer from multiple personality disorder?

Yep, MPD.

you do know you and I are not the only two people on this web site right? We refers to me and every other reader not you.

[Silver]

Let's say God is real.. I'm saying science can't literally, can't classify God due to it's restrictions and limitations with in itself. If it could that would mean God would have to fit in the 'box'/parameters of science/God would have to be subject or manipulated by man, in order to be studied and classified, with in the finite world of science. Now if God were finite and science could grasp what was there, then that being is not or ceases to be God.

Do you see the paradox?

So why look for something in a fashion that is by nature paradoxical? Why not remove the paradox then look?

If God is who He says He is... then wouldn't you only be able to find Him the way He demands you look?

Are you stating science can "never" find god, because god is in the classification of imaginative limitations whereby he's only in your mind?

With that I'd have to agree.

After all, if god was in any way real, we wouldn't have to rely upon your silly tactics to inform of us of his existence.

As it is, reality shows absolutely no sign of his existence, except for where you have personally placed him there for your personal argument to make sense.

[The Grand Nudger]

Let's say God is real.. I'm saying science can't literally, can't classify God due to it's restrictions and limitations with in itself. If it could that would mean God would have to fit in the 'box'/parameters of science/God would have to be subject or manipulated by man, in order to be studied and classified, with in the finite world of science.

Why, stars aren't "subject" to man, nor can we "manipulate" them.  

 Now if God were finite and science could grasp what was there, then that being is not or ceases to be God.

Why, again?  You're not making any sense.

Do you see the paradox?

No, because you haven't shown one.  All that would be required for us to study god with science..is that god or gods effects be detectable. You've shown that the idea of science being applied to god scares the living piss out of you..but that's not paradoxical..and one immediately has to ask why you feel that way.

[Angrboda]

God has never, in the entire history of mankind, said anything. So you're off to a bad start already.

[Minimalist]

Pray in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up first, Dripshit.

[Dancefortwo]

Moohahahah fresh meat!!! I mean welcome to AF!

Oh, for shit sakes!  The whole story is nonsense.  First of all your omniscient god would know the entire outcome of the story even before he said "let there be light"   (he talks to himself, I guess).

or the void commanding that Light be made. The idea God is so powerful, he stood in darkness and commanded light come fourth, and light did. So did God speak to Himself? no. He spoke to the light and darkness. 

He would know in advance how the Eden debacle would play out way  before  he even  created the first atom.   Yet knowing this, knowing millions and millions  of people would roast in hell for eternity,

So? He also knew millions more would enter into Heaven.

  he proceeds and puts  everything into action and then has the audacity to blame his creations for events he already knows will happen.

there is no blame. there simply isn't any room in eternity for those who do not wish to serve God in that span. Could you imagine the ISIS guy who cut the head off those reporters needing a place to stay, and you had an empty room in your house with your wife and kids. Would you invite him to stay as long as he likes with no rule or declarations to change his ways? what if he literally was to stay forever.. how long before you infedels give jihaddie john a reason to cut your kids heads off?

So then why would God want that very same element in heaven with the rest of use who do pledge to be with Him?   

Besides there not being even the slightest falsifiable evidence your god exists, your story is stupid and your mythical  deity is a total asshole.

one there is falsifiable evidence in the promises He made. You follow the steps in the promise God literally promises to show up. But his way his terms. God is not a clown to do trick for you or anyone else God will not be tricked or loopholed into performing. You have a real opportunity to be sat before God if you do things His way and in his time.

The problem with science is God has to be made to fit into man's manipulation/box rather inorder for science to quantify something Man must first have mastery over it. If not science can not put a label on it. God is not to be master by man or man's processes. otherwise He would cease to be God.

Rather when you look for evidence look for legal evidence something that would indeed hold up in a court of law something strong enough for a jury of your peers put you away for the rest of your life, like eye witness testimony from billions of people who all claim the same thing, from 10's of thousands of documented miracles. Like it or not these forms of evidence in a court of law would be more than enough to convict or determine whether or not some one is telling the truth or lying. Eye witness testimony is enough to seal away a human life till he dies. document evidence that conclusively records and observes never before seen acts is enough to set a man free or condemn him. is enough for people to determine where a company owes millions in damages or nothing at all.

If God can not be measured by science (literally by definition) then why look for him through science? Unless you don't want to find anything. If you wanted the truth why not seek God where He demand we look? afraid you will find Him? Afraid he will call you on the talking to himself bit? Think he will be made that you observe million will be lost?

Why hide behind science? why hide where you know God will not be found?

You're skirting around the whole omniscient issue.  If a god  has preknowledge of the future, of every minute detail of everyones lives, of every choice they make, every thought they have and every action they make even before birth,  then everything is predetermined  and  free will does not  exist.

[Minimalist]

Dripshit always avoids anything that gives his fucking holy horseshit any problem at all.  He's just a bullshit artist.