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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 14, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Teachers often work from about 7 in the morning to around 7 or 8 in the evening. Not only do they have to teach, but they have to see parents, grade papers, prepare their lesson plans etc. They don't work 8 hour days.
Also as to the summer, yes, they do get a couple months off, but they don't get the whole summer off by any means. They have to prepare for their classes and turn in their yearly plan weeks before the students ever show up.
Underpaid...yes. Perfect example was my mother who with over 26 years of experience and with a master's degree still was only paid around $28,000/yr. Underpaid teachers is a big reason why our education system is so poor. Many can barely support their family, often work summer jobs. When they can make 20 to 50 thousand more in private industy, is it small wonder that most of the highly qualified potential teachers have no interest in teaching? Not really.
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 12:01 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2010 at 4:00 am by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 12:43 am
I bet teachers are driving around in their cadillacs, drinking mimosas on the tax payer dime.
Damn those welfare queens... I mean teachers!!!
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 1:26 am
I'm registered as a Republican because when I went to register I agreed more with their general stances. Now, however, I'm not sure what to classify me as. They're all corrupt or will be corrupt given enough power and time.
"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." -- Richard Dawkins
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 9:36 am
(December 15, 2010 at 1:26 am)LWP17 Wrote: I'm registered as a Republican because when I went to register I agreed more with their general stances. Now, however, I'm not sure what to classify me as. They're all corrupt or will be corrupt given enough power and time.
Although personally I try to do so when they are actually on the ballot, no one says you have to vote for the party you registered with. 
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 9:49 am
(December 15, 2010 at 1:26 am)LWP17 Wrote: I'm registered as a Republican because when I went to register I agreed more with their general stances. Now, however, I'm not sure what to classify me as. They're all corrupt or will be corrupt given enough power and time.
Oh, and your justification for that is where?
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Good thing he doesn't need one.
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Do you really need me to point out how dumb that is Lrh9?
Person 1: Where is your justification for the assertion that P
Person 2: Don't need one
That P is a fallacy, namely a bare assertion.
In another form to illustrate the point:
Person 2:
1. All cats are controlling the minds of homeless lonely women
2. Having your mind controlled is a violation of ones rights over their own body
3. Violating the rights of another person is morally wrong, therefore:
4. All cats are bad
Person 1:
Where is your justification for 1?
Person 2:
Don't need one.
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Do you need me to point out how dumb it is to think that you can require anyone to provide any justification for anything they think?
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RE: Fun Fact: 6% of Scientists are Republican
December 15, 2010 at 3:02 pm
He made an assertion, a statement of fact, which is not a subjective "I think" statement. I simply asked for his justification for the proposition. If he has any good reason for believing the proposition that "[Politicians] all corrupt or will be corrupt given enough power and time." he will have no problem providing it.
Of course it's a ridiculous assertion, and asking for (not requiring) justification is an effective way to point that out.
If he could provide valid justification for the assertion I would be obliged to agree.
Do you think it is dumb to ask someone to justify their assertions? If so i'm not sure why you have a problem with any position at all from assertions of a God to those that a free-market will self-regulate, after all any well supported belief is necessarily justified, so if you don't care about justification you don't care about well supported beliefs - We both know that's not what you think, so why the double standard?
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